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Old 11-24-2009, 11:02 PM   #256
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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/24/n...erey-transmis/


Nope. Trans failure ain't no safety concern.

"Hello, NHTSA?"
I mentioned the same thing earlier in this thread. I send NHTSA a message years ago about a Pontiac I had, but nothing materialized because I was probably one of a handful who actually ran their '87 Grand Am SE past 199,999 miles, which is where the digital odometer stopped.

It's worth a try for those who broke already, even if it's just to let NHTSA know that there are transmissions that are still breaking even after the announcement of the problem months back. Like others, I consider it a safety concern as well. :(
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:51 AM   #257
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I mentioned the same thing earlier in this thread. I send NHTSA a message years ago about a Pontiac I had, but nothing materialized because I was probably one of a handful who actually ran their '87 Grand Am SE past 199,999 miles, which is where the digital odometer stopped.

It's worth a try for those who broke already, even if it's just to let NHTSA know that there are transmissions that are still breaking even after the announcement of the problem months back. Like others, I consider it a safety concern as well. :(
If we make a list of those of us who think this is a safety concern vs those who do not, we should disqualify any of those who own L99 Camaro's or none at all from trying to tell us otherwise. I'm sure very few owners would be so nonchalant about this issue.

The next step is to probably write to the NHTSA as you say and get as many people to get in and sign it or write up about the issue as well. It is true that most of who have had this issue and had it fixed don't care or haven't thought about the issue anymore, however that is not important. If there is anyone with numbers of vehicles affected, the insurance companies would have to have free clearance on that information (onstar would know as well), I doubt it could be kept from them as it is being kept from us. GM's people/sympathizers say its a small amount of vehicles affected which doesn't warrant them doing anything about it but letting ours fail and taking it in because it is not a safety issue..lol. Hell, the NHTSA should be able to get all the numbers of those affected in a few minutes out of Onstar or GM. Well, we have pointed out how a total drive train failure is viewed by the NHTSA and GM's handling of this issue at its current stage including what information GM emplyee's offered to us to calm us down 4 months ago. So unless GM is willing to ignore the NHTSA, I would say they need to take this problem more seriously, especially with voices like us yelling out to them for some information on this subject. As far as we know, GM hasn't come out and acknowledged that the problem is fixed even though we have some friends of Gm employee's telling us it is, but then that leaves all of us within the affected range with an unknown. GM should come up with a plan telling us what VIN area's we should watch out for and which ones are 100% sure they do not have a weak shaft. GM should come up with a plan to get all the VIN's in question checked and replaced if there is any doubt..

GM, why don't you do this...?

1) Have the dealers replace all trans output shafts defective or not (within the vin range of affected vehicles) with ones that you know are created correctly.. You take each shaft and have them tested at your own time to declare them viable to be recycled or used again.

This is the easiest and best solution yet since it would save you guys from an embarrassment and a large legal payout if someone does die in the future due to this issue. Not to mention all the bad publicity you will get. Look at Toyota as the example.

For those of you with Camaro's within that VIN range, post your Camaro SS M6 and VIn number and post that you support GM doing this. Thanks



So Scott Fbodfather, if you are reading this, please suggest what I just wrote above in bold to GM's higher authorities so they can make it happen and end this ridiculous back and forth of speculation and playing with our lives with a known potentially dangerous issue. GM can do this and problem solved. Make it happen. Let us know that you tried.. Thanks..

I created its own thread to make it more official.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53734
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Old 11-25-2009, 11:33 AM   #258
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Here's the web page to file vehicle safety complaints for those who have broken already.

NHTSA complaint webpage

This is the only complaint I could find so far.

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BOTH DOOR STRIKE PLATES EXHIBITING CORROSION. PART WAS PLATED FIRST THEN BENT INTO SHAPE. MANUFACTURING PROCESS SHOULD BE REVERSED. PART SHOULD BE BENT INTO SHAPE THEN PLATED. *TR
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Old 11-25-2009, 05:43 PM   #259
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:37 PM   #260
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I mentioned the same thing earlier in this thread. I send NHTSA a message years ago about a Pontiac I had, but nothing materialized because I was probably one of a handful who actually ran their '87 Grand Am SE past 199,999 miles, which is where the digital odometer stopped.

It's worth a try for those who broke already, even if it's just to let NHTSA know that there are transmissions that are still breaking even after the announcement of the problem months back. Like others, I consider it a safety concern as well. :(
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:16 PM   #261
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have the first 25k car been built already? i ordered mine about 2 weeks ago just making sure i wont get stuck with one of the faulty shafts!
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Old 11-28-2009, 06:01 PM   #262
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have the first 25k car been built already? i ordered mine about 2 weeks ago just making sure i wont get stuck with one of the faulty shafts!
Pretty sure they have....You SHOULD be fine.
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Old 11-28-2009, 06:03 PM   #263
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have the first 25k car been built already? i ordered mine about 2 weeks ago just making sure i wont get stuck with one of the faulty shafts!
mmmm, yeah...they should be up well over 60k by now. 25k was built back in July.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:19 PM   #264
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this thread has lost all credability,maybe if you hold your breath then you guys will get what you want!
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This coming from the guy that can't even spell credibility?
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This is the only complaint I could find so far.
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