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Old 09-15-2008, 04:43 PM   #1
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now why can't GM do this and call it a Z/28

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Old 09-15-2008, 04:53 PM   #2
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couple reasons why..

1. The dodge drag pack cars are NOT STREET LEGAL. How would you feel if you buaght a car but couldnt license it or drive it on the street? GM feels thats not the way to go with consumers..

2. Dodge is only making 100 of them a year. Again.. unless you want to pay a huge wad of cash due to exclusivity.. GM feels thats not the way to go...

3. The cars are only available to current established race crews, in other words unless you happen to own a race crew.. your out of luck.
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:10 PM   #3
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couple reasons why..

1. The dodge drag pack cars are NOT STREET LEGAL. How would you feel if you buaght a car but couldnt license it or drive it on the street? GM feels thats not the way to go with consumers..

2. Dodge is only making 100 of them a year. Again.. unless you want to pay a huge wad of cash due to exclusivity.. GM feels thats not the way to go...

3. The cars are only available to current established race crews, in other words unless you happen to own a race crew.. your out of luck.
It is not that gm doesnt feel that is the way to go with consumers. This is a whole other type of consumer. Plain and simple it isnt street legal.
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:12 PM   #4
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its retarded.


seeing as how the cars are "race-only" and still weigh too much and are too underpowered to compete for any thing serious. tho since they are produced like that "from the factory" i guess they could race in a "stock" class without interiors and all that.
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couple reasons why..

1. The dodge drag pack cars are NOT STREET LEGAL. How would you feel if you buaght a car but couldnt license it or drive it on the street? GM feels thats not the way to go with consumers..

2. Dodge is only making 100 of them a year. Again.. unless you want to pay a huge wad of cash due to exclusivity.. GM feels thats not the way to go...

3. The cars are only available to current established race crews, in other words unless you happen to own a race crew.. your out of luck.
4. The Z28 historically is not a drag-race only oriented package. In fact, if you go back to the 1st generation the Z28 was the road-course car, not a strip car. For some reason for the 5th gen people have got it in their minds that a Z28 can only be a high-horsepower, supercharged drag beast.
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:32 PM   #7
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:41 PM   #8
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Sounds more like what a ZL1 could be.
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:53 PM   #9
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yea i didnt know that it wasn't available to the average joe. That is pretty stupid. What exactly is the 5.9 wedge
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:57 PM   #10
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now why can't GM do this and call it a Z/28


because it is a Dodge Challenger?

sorry......... I had to say it.
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The race version of the Challenger I actually think will sell will be the Dodge Challenger Super Stock... Which is meant to compete in the Eliminator "stock" class in NHRA Racing... but yeah, the Challenger is way too heavy and bulky to competitively compete in actual track racing...

Although this would be the perfect time for Trans Am racing to come back out again...
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Dodge & Ford know better than to go head-to-head with the Camaro on the twisties
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4. The Z28 historically is not a drag-race only oriented package. In fact, if you go back to the 1st generation the Z28 was the road-course car, not a strip car. For some reason for the 5th gen people have got it in their minds that a Z28 can only be a high-horsepower, supercharged drag beast.
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:06 PM   #14
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because that's the wrong kind of track for a Z28 to be on
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:59 PM   #15
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Dude these cars are gonna get worked at the dragstrip every weekend! Tho I don't like StAnGz anymore but the supercharged Stangs are gonna smash these DoDge weekend Warriors man! And when people start modding and upgradin their SS CaMaRos whatch what happens at the track. Theres nothin special about this Challenger sir.
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4. The Z28 historically is not a drag-race only oriented package. In fact, if you go back to the 1st generation the Z28 was the road-course car, not a strip car. For some reason for the 5th gen people have got it in their minds that a Z28 can only be a high-horsepower, supercharged drag beast.
Some, but not all SS used to be the brute, but look at it now. It's been (4th. Gen. included) as balanced, if not more, than a Z28 (except for maybe a 1LE) and could keep up with Z28 so times, IMVHO, are changing; it's not only that there are only people as you've described, but some of us just see it as the natural progression in this case.

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I wonder why there hasn't been mention of that 6.4 HEMI with 525 horse. It's not like the 5.9 is a regular production engine for that car, let alone in Mopar cars (to my knowledge) so why not that engine?

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because that's the wrong kind of track for a Z28 to be on
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I think the original poster is just saying that Chrysler found a creative way to meet a specific market. GM could form a Z28 licensing agreement with an aftermarket tuner like www.mallettcars. Then it wouldn't impact their GM CAFE requirements directly, and a Z28 could still be produced that fills customer demand. I'm just thinking a little outside the box here, but I think Chevy used to call it a backdoor.
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I think the original poster is just saying that Chrysler found a creative way to meet a specific market. GM could form a Z28 licensing agreement with an aftermarket tuner like www.mallettcars. Then it wouldn't impact their GM CAFE requirements directly, and a Z28 could still be produced that fills customer demand. I'm just thinking a little outside the box here, but I think Chevy used to call it a backdoor.
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4. The Z28 historically is not a drag-race only oriented package. In fact, if you go back to the 1st generation the Z28 was the road-course car, not a strip car. For some reason for the 5th gen people have got it in their minds that a Z28 can only be a high-horsepower, supercharged drag beast.
Some of the 5th gen people....

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I guess I should've added the JK...

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yea i didnt know that it wasn't available to the average joe. That is pretty stupid. What exactly is the 5.9 wedge
The 5.9 Wedge is the 360cid Magnum Motor. I think it was rated at 245hp....anyone verify that?
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I think the original poster is just saying that Chrysler found a creative way to meet a specific market. GM could form a Z28 licensing agreement with an aftermarket tuner like www.mallettcars. Then it wouldn't impact their GM CAFE requirements directly, and a Z28 could still be produced that fills customer demand. I'm just thinking a little outside the box here, but I think Chevy used to call it a backdoor.
That is what i meant. I didnt mean to so much call it a z/28 but, just the idea of a stripped 5th gen with the LS3 would be a pretty cool idea. I dont really care what it would be called. ZL1 would be cool.
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