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Old 09-26-2008, 03:07 PM   #26
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I hope this is all true. If it can do 0-60 in 5.5 (maybe?) what do you think the 1/4 will be?
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:52 PM   #27
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I hope this is all true. If it can do 0-60 in 5.5 (maybe?) what do you think the 1/4 will be?
If it does 5.5, then I'm willing to bet that it'll do the quarter in 14 flat.
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Old 09-27-2008, 08:01 PM   #28
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...di_v_6_feature

That's the C&D review. It only says with the 3.6L DI, VVT V6. That was with the 6-spd manual. Doesn't say anywhere in there about the optional AWD. It says RWD.

The Cadillac also has a 4032lbs curb weight.

There's no doubt in my mind now that the V6 Camaro won't at least achieve that. Esp if it weighs almost 300lbs less.

I think we could be looking at a 5.5-5.9 0-60 easy for the V6 Camaro.
Hmm, 4000 lbs is right between where the awd and non-awd cars come in at. Anyone know if magazines tend give heavy or light readings?
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:48 AM   #29
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Well an LT with 18" aluminums wheels is the lightest camaro in the lineup at 3741 lbs with the aisin. The CTS 2WD weighs 3861 with the same tranny. So we're only talking about 120 lbs here, folks. Different, yes, but not as much difference as the above post.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:12 AM   #30
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Was that the AWD CTS? If so it will have a much better chance at pulling great 0-60 times then the RWD camaro. It will launch like a bat outta hell.

The V6 camaro might be able to break 6.0 seconds with the manual but not the auto. But neither will beat a Mustang GT for the TQ reason. You don't race with HP you race with TQ.
Nope. C&D lists 5.8 seconds as a manual RWD CTS. the article is here:
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:14 AM   #31
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Some other interesting notes: The 1/4 mile is still mid 14s. and somehow, after getting a 5.8s 0-60, they got a 5-60 of 6.6 ... um, what? Kind of throws all the stats into question.

VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan

BASE PRICE: $35,290

ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 24-valve V-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 218 cu in, 3564cc
Power (SAE net): 304 bhp @ 6300 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 273 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 113.4 in
Length: 191.6 in
Width: 72.5 in
Height: 58.0 in
Curb weight: 4032 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 15.5 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.6 sec @ 97 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 155 mph

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 16/25 mpg
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Well an LT with 18" aluminums wheels is the lightest camaro in the lineup at 3741 lbs with the aisin. The CTS 2WD weighs 3861 with the same tranny. So we're only talking about 120 lbs here, folks. Different, yes, but not as much difference as the above post.
That's true. I wasn't thinking about the 18" aluminum wheels. Ok so not as much as difference in weight as I originally thought.

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Some other interesting notes: The 1/4 mile is still mid 14s. and somehow, after getting a 5.8s 0-60, they got a 5-60 of 6.6 ... um, what? Kind of throws all the stats into question.

VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan

BASE PRICE: $35,290

ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 24-valve V-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 218 cu in, 3564cc
Power (SAE net): 304 bhp @ 6300 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 273 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 113.4 in
Length: 191.6 in
Width: 72.5 in
Height: 58.0 in
Curb weight: 4032 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 15.5 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.6 sec @ 97 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 155 mph

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 16/25 mpg
Yeah, it's strange how even though it does 0-60 in 5.8 yet still does the quarter in 14.6. Probably has something to do with the gear ratios? Are they maybe taller/higher in like 3rd through 6th?

Well ok. This does sorta clear things up and can give us a more narrow range to estimate what the V6 Camaro will do 0-60 in.

My final guess is that it will do 0-60 somewhere between 5.7-5.9 right out of the factory. Which is pretty good still. The quarter though until we find out more about the gear ratios and what not I'm going to think we're looking at around 14.0-14.5 So I'm just going to sit with that as my prediction until the 5th gens get launched and then once C&D gets their hands on the V6 Camaro or any other mag we'll def see.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:44 AM   #33
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CTS = (according to C&D)

1st: 4.15 17.22
2nd:2.33 9.67
3rd:1.53 6.35
4th:1.15 4.77
5th:1.00 4.15
6th:0.79 2.04

Final drive:4.15 (wow that's deep)

Camaro LS/LT: (according to chevrolet.com/camaro)

1st:4.48 14.65
2nd:2.58 8.44
3rd:1.63 5.33
4th:1.19 3.89
5th:1.00 3.27
6th:0.75 2.45

Final Drive:3.27

Here's a little comparison I put together. Looks like the CTS has deeper overall gearing except for top gear. The weight factor is hard for me to guesstimate, but it looks like the two cars will be pretty close in 0-60 and 14 mile times.

Edit: The second number is overall ratio from flywheel to rear axle, I computed it for everyone's benefit using MS calculator, yay!
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That's pretty close. Yeah. Hmm.. well I just guess we gotta wait and see. But yeah, it's def safe to say that they'll be real close.
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