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Old 01-27-2010, 09:58 PM   #15
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This might be a little off topic but I purchased one of these Diablo tuners but I haven't installed it yet. I was waiting to get everything done at once. My question is, if I add Long tubes, Exhaust & Cold Air Intake will the Diablo be able to tune this the way I want it? Or will I have to still take it somewhere and have it profesionally tuned by someone that knows what their doing. Unlike me lol.
Yes it can!! You can do it yourself or go with a custom tune.

http://eprowebdesigns.com/*******_Tune/

Either way, make sure you have the usb interface for your computer.
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:59 PM   #16
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Yes, they can all be detected. There is a change-code in the computer that no hand-held tuner or even the big guys have access to. If you modify anything, that change code will raise a flag.

I'll work on finding the thread on this. There was a big controversy over it.
But if you return to stock won't the change code revert back to whatever it is supposed to be?
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But if you return to stock won't the change code revert back to whatever it is supposed to be?
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HMMM, well I guess that settles that.
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:05 PM   #19
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HMMM, well I guess that settles that.
Unfortunately. :(


See, and forgive the laymen's terms, I know it's not called the "change code". BUT...the computer detects tampering. Be it tuning, or return to stock. It's sort of like that little white square on your cell phones that detect water penetration. The phone might dry, but that square will be purple forever....
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:09 PM   #20
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See, and forgive the laymen's terms, I know it's not called the "change code". BUT...the computer detects tampering. Be it tuning, or return to stock. It's sort of like that little white square on your cell phones that detect water penetration. The phone might dry, but that square will be purple forever....
Gotcha. I guess I'll just be purchasing a handheld for data logging, codes, etc.
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There has yet to be proof that a single person has been denied warranty work for reverting back to stock before going to the dealer. This goes for Camaros and any other vehicle. I have searched all over and not one place has it been said someone has been denied. However, I have found hundreds of people that has successfully gotten warrenty work (including engine/transmission work) with no problems reverting to the stock tune before going to the dealer. That includes camaros also. It would be posted EVERYWHERE if someone was denied. I wish people would bring proof when they say you will be denied warranty work even if you go back to stock before going to the dealer. So,take it for what it is worth!!
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I wish people would bring proof when they say you will be denied warranty work even if you go back to stock before going to the dealer.
Not "will". "Can".

It's a very real chance, however rare, that you can be denied warranty work.
Most people take that chance....I probably would, too.
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Not "will". "Can".

It's a very real chance, however rare, that you can be denied warranty work.
Most people take that chance....I probably would, too.
There have been many people denied because they kept a tune in the ecm. However, not ONE (at least posted somewhere) has ever been denied when they reverted back to stock. If it would be detectable, at least one instance would be posted somewhere and it would have spread like a wild fire. So, one can most likely imply that these tunes were undetecable by gm by going back to stock before warranty work. That is just my 2 cents anyway!! Until someone gets hit
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There have been many people denied because they kept a tune in the ecm. However, not ONE (at least posted somewhere) has ever been denied when they reverted back to stock. If it would be detectable, at least one instance would be posted somewhere and it would have spread like a wild fire. So, one can most likely imply that these tunes were undetecable by gm by going back to stock before warranty work.
"most likely", "imply"....there is still a risk, even if it's never happened.

They are not undetectable, and I wish I could find the thread that proves it...
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"most likely", "imply"....there is still a risk, even if it's never happened.

They are not undetectable, and I wish I could find the thread that proves it...
Ok, I agree with you there. You can never say never!
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Tuning from Trifecta in Washington is "guaranteed" to not be detectable. The software in your computer gets rewritten instead reflashed. The guy that does it is a former software writer from Microsoft. Im on the list for a group buy and I believe it's $240 plus shipping if you choose to do remote tuning via EZ flash cable. I have a few friends at a local dealership and will have them check my ECM after the tuning. I'll start a thread afterwards with the results as well as dyno numbers for comparison.

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"most likely", "imply"....there is still a risk, even if it's never happened.

They are not undetectable, and I wish I could find the thread that proves it...
Dragon. The thread where the info is, is not public. Try looking in the other section. It's also in PM's. I think I copied and pasted them there.

Sadly, they won't believe us, unless we show it comes from a reputable source. You and I both know we can't do that. (or shouldn't)
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