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Old 02-03-2010, 07:41 AM   #43
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Nevermind the pony wars, the Mustang continues on in the year 2010 and 2011 with a chassis that cannot accomodate curtain airbags. That is simply unacceptable today, and just for that reason the Camaro is a much more desireable car.

As safety consious Ford makes themselves out to be, I can't believe when the redesigned the Mustang for the new platform in 2004 (or whenever it was, I don't really remember) that they did not make accomodations for curtain airbags.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:45 AM   #44
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lmao im sure your right, i think toyota f'ed up big time. who knows if they'll be able to recover from this because this has def ruined the way some ppl look at their brand. maybe GM can come out on top???
On a tangent - a buddy of mine went to rent a car yesterday and every rental car agency is sold out within a 100 mile radius (at least). Once the recall went through, all the rental agencies were forced to instantly yank all Toyotas from their inventory.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:38 AM   #45
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The way the v6 2011 Mustang was sliding around in the corners in that video, I'm betting it'll be pretty popular with drifters and the type of teenage showoff who loves making noise.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:30 PM   #46
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The boys at GM have to be pretty dang thrilled about the Camaro #s so far. When things were going to pot not all that long ago, the new Camaro became one of the most sought out cars in America. It was the lone bright spot during the darkest hours. Now that GM has made some great strides toward regaining its rightful place at the top, I feel they owe the Camaro a serious amount of devotion. I really think they will put in the effort to remain head and shoulders above the competition (Mustang and Challenger) for many years to come.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:58 PM   #47
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The boys at GM have to be pretty dang thrilled about the Camaro #s so far. When things were going to pot not all that long ago, the new Camaro became one of the most sought out cars in America. It was the lone bright spot during the darkest hours. Now that GM has made some great strides toward regaining its rightful place at the top, I feel they owe the Camaro a serious amount of devotion. I really think they will put in the effort to remain head and shoulders above the competition (Mustang and Challenger) for many years to come.
I hope so, because with the Stangs upgraded interior and upcoming powerplants now is NOT the time for GM to sit back and rest on its pony car laurels! We need A) a track pack, B) power adders (CAI, exhaust, gears), C) more appearance mods and last but certainly not least D) THE Z/28!!!!
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:53 PM   #48
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I think you may see the game change in spring once the new 5.0 hits the dealers. Not to mention the Camaro will be a year old.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:38 PM   #49
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The boys at GM have to be pretty dang thrilled about the Camaro #s so far. When things were going to pot not all that long ago, the new Camaro became one of the most sought out cars in America. It was the lone bright spot during the darkest hours. Now that GM has made some great strides toward regaining its rightful place at the top, I feel they owe the Camaro a serious amount of devotion. I really think they will put in the effort to remain head and shoulders above the competition (Mustang and Challenger) for many years to come.
I agree. It is not taboo at GM to talk about/work on the Camaro like it was for some time...it's a legitimate player in their plans going forward.

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I think you may see the game change in spring once the new 5.0 hits the dealers. Not to mention the Camaro will be a year old.
I dunno...The Mustang has proven for the bast three decades that engines and power have little to do with holding the sales crown. Maybe that's changed...but I would expect design and other daily-driver features to have more of an effect.

That said...and I'm not trying to be pessimistic....I don't expect Camaro to hold the crown forever. Eventually, Mustang will overtake, as it typically has. All I care about is that GM keeps the car viable and competitive in sales...not necessarily #1. fwiw...
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:14 PM   #50
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Does anyone know how many Transformers were made?
How many of each style; 2SS, 1SS, 2LT and 1LT?
How many were manual transmission of each style?

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Old 02-05-2010, 03:35 PM   #51
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Is this really surprising? You get more power and a better looking car for the money.
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:49 PM   #52
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What was GM's initial sales projections for the 2010 Camaro?
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:51 PM   #53
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You get more power and a better looking car for the money.
Getting "more power" is objective but "better looking" is subjective. Think of it this way, just because you think your girlfriend is hot does not mean everyone else holds the same opinion as you do.
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Getting "more power" is objective but "better looking" is subjective. Think of it this way, just because you think your girlfriend is hot does not mean everyone else holds the same opinion as you do.
I think that's a given....but the general consensus on this site is that the Camaro looks better.
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:25 PM   #55
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I think that's a given....but the general consensus on this site is that the Camaro looks better.
If it wasn't, I'd be very worried.
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