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Old 10-16-2008, 11:30 AM   #18
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it is strictly a visual design feature. the slot is positioned directly in front of the hood latch. this is not possible as already discussed on a different thread.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:38 AM   #19
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1. There is a structural support right behind the slot so your idea would not fit.
2. There is no such thing as ram air.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:58 AM   #20
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A ram-air intake is any intake design which uses the dynamic air pressure created by vehicle motion to increase the static air pressure inside of the intake manifold on an engine, thus allowing a greater massflow through the engine and hence increasing engine power.
The ram air intake works by reducing the intake air velocity by increasing the cross sectional area of the intake ducting. When gas velocity goes down the dynamic pressure is reduced while the static pressure is increased. The increased static pressure in the plenum chamber has a positive effect on engine power, both because of the pressure itself and the increased air density this higher pressure gives.
Ram-air systems are used on high performance vehicles, most often on motorcycles and race cars. Ram-air has been a feature on some cars since the late sixties, but fell out of favor in the seventies, and has only recently made a comeback. Modern parachutes use a ram-air system to pressurise a series of cells to provide the aerofoil shape.
At low speeds (subsonic speeds) increases in static pressure are however limited to a few percent. Given that the air velocity is reduced to zero without losses the pressure increase can be calculated according to:
dP / P = (v2) / (2RT)
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:29 AM   #21
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1. There is a structural support right behind the slot so your idea would not fit.
2. There is no such thing as ram air.
A carburetor venturi is ram-air, the SR71 Blackbird uses ram-air. I believe the F22 is also using ram-air to go supersonic without afterburner.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:56 AM   #22
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2. There is no such thing as ram air.

Hmmm .. I'm pretty sure that the fart out of a RAM can be called Ram Air !!



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Old 10-17-2008, 01:30 PM   #23
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I think that the main slot needs to be a bit taller before it could ever really be functional as a scoop. An extra 1/2 in might be all thats needed. Then there is the whole issue of not having any room behind it to put any plumbing.

But if you open it up it might do a bit to help keep the engine cool.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:53 PM   #24
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An F22 and a Blackbird can go fast enough to see a pressure change and a ram effect, a car cannot. Reading that it can on wikipedia is about as much use as asking someone on the street since it is written by whoever thinks they know what they are talking about.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:25 PM   #25
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An F22 and a Blackbird can go fast enough to see a pressure change and a ram effect, a car cannot. Reading that it can on wikipedia is about as much use as asking someone on the street since it is written by whoever thinks they know what they are talking about.
Or asking you what you think....

My original idea is intended to bring cool air to the airbox more than charge it and cause a pressure increase
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:02 PM   #26
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of course im at work and cant see the picture....

i'll touch on this tomorrow
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For future referance...... wikipedia is not a real source
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It's good enough for a casual discussion. He isn't doing his thesis here.
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Not to mention that wikipedia articles do have citations.
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They'll make a Cold Air Intake and if you want to get more air into the motor changing the Mass Air sensor will do it. About 300.00 Hundred for the MAS.
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They'll make a Cold Air Intake and if you want to get more air into the motor changing the Mass Air sensor will do it. About 300.00 Hundred for the MAS.
and if its anything like the MAF's for 4th gens, you are better off sticking with your stock one and geting ported ends.

aftermarket maf's are great for stock or lightly modded motors, but they dont do very well when it comes to tuning


then again, there's always speed density mode
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An F22 and a Blackbird can go fast enough to see a pressure change and a ram effect, a car cannot. Reading that it can on wikipedia is about as much use as asking someone on the street since it is written by whoever thinks they know what they are talking about.
I was explaining the existence of something you claimed doesn't exist. Please explain why it's useless on a car motor.
CLUE: google...cold air density and venturi effect
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and if its anything like the MAF's for 4th gens, you are better off sticking with your stock one and geting ported ends.

aftermarket maf's are great for stock or lightly modded motors, but they dont do very well when it comes to tuning


then again, there's always speed density mode
Yea that would be the one MAFs
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:22 PM   #34
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for corvette they make something called the "vette-air", it helps "shove" air up & into the filter. It has been shown/proven to help 1/4 mile times and trap speeds!
But it does not show any gains on the dyno...
due to the fact that it only helps when the car is actually moving air and being "forced"
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