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Old 07-25-2007, 10:38 AM   #15
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Bottom line is if you purchase an American made vehicle, even if it was made in Mexico or Canada, you support more US based jobs. I've heard ratios of anywhere from 6:1 to 15:1. That is if you buy a Chevy, Buick you've essentially helped employ 6 US citizens, whereas if you buy a Toyota, Honda, etc, you would only benefit 1 US employee. Assembly is just 1 small portion of the entire manufacturing process. Just cause it's put together here does not make it an American vehicle.

I've always been and always will be pro USA. But, hey it's a free country, thanks primarily to our military past and present, so we can say and buy whatever the hell we want!

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Old 07-25-2007, 10:54 AM   #16
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Tag, why is this the wrong forum? I put it in the off topic discussions forum. Should I have put this somewhere else?

Oh, and I didn't intend to start the whole "what's US made and what isn't" argument. Sorry.
No buddy...I never said this was the wrong forum. I apologize, but I kinda got off topic. Killer knows how I've been trying to get folks to post in the proper forum and to not double post, read threads before posting, etc. I was just showing him new smilies I'm going to start using. Your thread belongs here in the off topic forum.

Anything 5th Gen related belongs in the top two boxes (General discussion and media forums) on the main forums page. Everything else belongs below in the members section.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:27 PM   #17
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Got it......thanks for the info.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:37 PM   #18
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Disclaimer again: I'm 100% supportive of the big-3, GM most of all naturally, but I can't help but scrutinize.

I'm totally ok with being ignorant and wrong, and I have no facts about it, just the little bit I know, so please, I'd love links to support for an argument against. But I look at it like this.

Not too many GMs, or Fords, are MADE state-side anymore. Sure, teh HQ is here...which means...a few admin and exec jobs, but the factory where they are built and the parts that are built for them are not here. THAT'S where Nissan, Toyota, BMW, etc, are getting my over the big 3 right now.

The argument of "well that money's going to overseas companies" only goes so far...the PAYCHECKS are staying here, giving Americans jobs. I respect that more than the big-3 outsourcing the jobs and only the execs reap the money from it.

Just my opinion, maybe I'm completely wrong.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:16 PM   #19
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Disclaimer again: I'm 100% supportive of the big-3, GM most of all naturally, but I can't help but scrutinize.

I'm totally ok with being ignorant and wrong, and I have no facts about it, just the little bit I know, so please, I'd love links to support for an argument against. But I look at it like this.

Not too many GMs, or Fords, are MADE state-side anymore. Sure, teh HQ is here...which means...a few admin and exec jobs, but the factory where they are built and the parts that are built for them are not here. THAT'S where Nissan, Toyota, BMW, etc, are getting my over the big 3 right now.
The argument of "well that money's going to overseas companies" only goes so far...the PAYCHECKS are staying here, giving Americans jobs. I respect that more than the big-3 outsourcing the jobs and only the execs reap the money from it.

Just my opinion, maybe I'm completely wrong.
Merf, the assembly process is just on step in building a vehicle. Most of GM vehicles have more than 50% of their parts made in the U.S. then shipped to the plants in Canada and Mexico for final assembly… Whereas, Toyota and Nissan are still importing up to 90% + of their parts to be “assemble” in U.S. plants (Now how can that be clamed as “Made in the U.S.”???). There is a tread on this topic with the percentage of actual “Made in the U.S.” data of almost every major car companies. Can’t find it at the moment…

Just because it’s assembled in the U.S. does not mean the parts where made here…
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:09 PM   #20
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hey guys sorry but i got to stend up for toyota cus even tho i was born with chevy blood i use to have a toyota tundra and that thing was wonderful. it has 167000 miles on it and never gave me proboblems. and im not gonna lie some time in miss that thing. never the less LONG LIVE CHEVY!!!!
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