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Old 10-21-2008, 10:04 AM   #101
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Hope this bodes well for the Camaro. But, I will never buy a car without seeing it in person and more importantly driving it.

I will be waiting for the price to come down to 'normal' range also.
And just what do you consider normal? Normal is usually a split of the "dealer profit" unless you're waiting for the model year end blowouts. So, IMO, unless I want to wait until Sept/Oct, the best I assume would be 1200-1500 off. Now being that I can't exactly pay cash for this car, the extra 25-30 per payment over 5 years doesn't bother me in the least to have it "now".
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We can build over 500 cars per shift. We have already started production. Whether they make it to dealers is another question. I see them everyday. Any other questions?
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:33 PM   #103
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We can build over 500 cars per shift. We have already started production. Whether they make it to dealers is another question. I see them everyday. Any other questions?
how many are you building per day? What color is going to be first...second...third...etc??
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Any other questions?
Oooohhhhh boy. Coming from someone who is actually there, building the Camaros, that's a loaded question on this forum

Let's see......

"Why can't I get a blue SS?"
"Why won't they make HUD available immediately?"
"When will my order be built?"
"Can I tour the plant?"
"Can I buy my Camaro right there at the plant and drive it home the same day it comes off the line?"
"Could you sneak in the HIDs without the RS package for me?"

I could just imagine about 20 more questions I've already seen on this forum
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Old 10-22-2008, 05:57 AM   #106
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We can build over 500 cars per shift. We have already started production. Whether they make it to dealers is another question. I see them everyday. Any other questions?
I have a question.....how many different colors can you build at the same time? Do you only build one color at a time or what?
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We can build over 500 cars per shift. We have already started production. Whether they make it to dealers is another question. I see them everyday. Any other questions?
at this point, I feel I should step in and remind everyone that these cars that are being built right now are captured test fleet cars that will be used to determine manufacturing defects and problem spots... so there are cars being built, but these cars are not going to your dealerships yet... they are going to be mules that get sent to places like Motor Trend, Car and Driver and the engineering department to for hard driving and testing... and some of them will be built as car show cars... but they are not going to be available to John Q. Public.
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Oooohhhhh boy. Coming from someone who is actually there, building the Camaros, that's a loaded question on this forum

Let's see......

1. "Why can't I get a blue SS?"
2. "Why won't they make HUD available immediately?"
3. "When will my order be built?"
4. "Can I tour the plant?"
5. "Can I buy my Camaro right there at the plant and drive it home the same day it comes off the line?"
6. "Could you sneak in the HIDs without the RS package for me?"

I could just imagine about 20 more questions I've already seen on this forum
1. in a matter of time, you probably will be able to... "keep the faith"
2. because product development isn't far enough along to support it at launch... besides, you always make a rough draft before a finished copy.
3. your order will be built in accordance with what VIN number it is assigned... closer to regular production, your car will be assigned a VIN and that will let you know when your car will be built.
4. that's one Zedder will have to answer
5. no... its not quite that simple... yet.
6. he could... but then quality control would catch it and pull your car out of sequence... this isn't the '60s.
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at this point, I feel I should step in and remind everyone that these cars that are being built right now are captured test fleet cars that will be used to determine manufacturing defects and problem spots... so there are cars being built, but these cars are not going to your dealerships yet... they are going to be mules that get sent to places like Motor Trend, Car and Driver and the engineering department to for hard driving and testing... and some of them will be built as car show cars... but they are not going to be available to John Q. Public.

I agree, and the actual cars that will be sold to the public will probably not start being produced until about January. the first 500 or so will be gone over with a fine tooth comb before the go-ahead to start the line up for full production. This is what I was told by a person that gave me all the scoop on the Sky when it started production, and everything he told me came true. He also said that that is standard procedure. They would not be building production cars for sale yet if the planned release is not until March.
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Old 10-23-2008, 03:26 PM   #110
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Has anyone seen any updates to the number of units sold now that the orders from this past weekend should have hit GM?
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Is there a target for this year too? Like will production stop at a certain number and will they then start taking orders for 2011 only?

What's the full production run? Feb 09 to ???????

When does 2011 production start?
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:36 PM   #112
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Is there a target for this year too? Like will production stop at a certain number and will they then start taking orders for 2011 only?

What's the full production run? Feb 09 to ???????

When does 2011 production start?
They will build all they can sell. Production will likely be Feb 2009 - Summer 2010 with 2011 production starting late summer/fall 2010
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Thanks...that's a looooooooooooooooong model year!
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:15 AM   #114
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Thanks...that's a looooooooooooooooong model year!
Yup and 1 year less depreciation for early birds if you ever sell, and the person you sell to isn't paying attention to VINs
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Oooohhhhh boy. Coming from someone who is actually there, building the Camaros, that's a loaded question on this forum

Let's see......

"Why can't I get a blue SS?"
"Why won't they make HUD available immediately?"
"When will my order be built?"
"Can I tour the plant?"
"Can I buy my Camaro right there at the plant and drive it home the same day it comes off the line?"
"Could you sneak in the HIDs without the RS package for me?"

I could just imagine about 20 more questions I've already seen on this forum

1. i would imagaine eventually. probably next production year. They may have had issues with the paint, possibly too much formaldehyde in the blue color creating way too many problems. It has happen before. But i dont have a definitive answer.

2. Probbaly look at the supplier end of the stick
3. I dont know when your order will be built. I dont have your numbers from your dealer. I am not in charge of tracking cars when they leave the paintshop. I am the one who makes sure your paintjob comes out flawlessly with zero defects and a glossy shine. And if not, i scrap the whole car/body parts and it gets melted down to raw steel.
4. Can you tour the plant. HAHAHA no. sorry. You can stand outside and watch me drink my coffee as i open and close the door quickly so you can get a glimpse of the camaro production line lol
5. No, will never happen. If you want one. You have to go to a dealer. If i want one, i have to go to a dealer. OR if i want slightly used one that is fully loaded, i can buy at the employee garage and drive it out of the GM compound. But no, you cannot buy factory direct.
5. No, I like my job and they pay me well for it. Plus i think Scott would put the boots to me if he caught whiff of me stealing lol.



Target production.

Well seeing as how we are this far along i guess i can let this tidbit loose.

Last Nov we had a meeting and we were told the production target for the camaro in first year production would be 32,400 units. one shift.

Not it has ballooned up to 100,000 plus possibly. There is a set production schedule from start of model year to end of model year. You cant really deviate much from it. As in line add 10,000k extra units. But if they are selling really well, GM can and will do what they want, when they want. It's their factory.


As for how many colors we can build at the same time. We can paint as many colors as we want at the same time. Its not, were painting yellow for 3 weeks straight. We can paint 1 red, 1 black, 1 orange, 1 white. doesent matter, we have robots with different bells on them to paint whatever color. Hell you could even have a multicolored hippy car if you really wanted.


As for the amount of actual cars built per day. Good question, for you that is. We have been given a rough figure. And line times and job times. We have figured out appoximatly how many we will be building when the ramp up begins. But i am not gonna tell you
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As for the amount of actual cars built per day. Good question, for you that is. We have been given a rough figure. And line times and job times. We have figured out appoximatly how many we will be building when the ramp up begins. But i am not gonna tell you
I'm going to take a wild guess and say 900/day like at Norwood...
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More? Less?
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well.. i can tell you... oh whats that?
lol

seriously, we have a good guess. But since it hasent been announced by GM directly, i do not want to say anything. Plus the number i say will not be dead nuts on, therefore i wouldent say anything anyways.
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Hey Zedder, have you guys painted any Camaros Cyber Grey, Blue or Red Jewel Tint yet?
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1. i would imagaine eventually. probably next production year. They may have had issues with the paint, possibly too much formaldehyde in the blue color creating way too many problems. It has happen before. But i dont have a definitive answer.

2. Probbaly look at the supplier end of the stick
3. I dont know when your order will be built. I dont have your numbers from your dealer. I am not in charge of tracking cars when they leave the paintshop. I am the one who makes sure your paintjob comes out flawlessly with zero defects and a glossy shine. And if not, i scrap the whole car/body parts and it gets melted down to raw steel.
4. Can you tour the plant. HAHAHA no. sorry. You can stand outside and watch me drink my coffee as i open and close the door quickly so you can get a glimpse of the camaro production line lol
5. No, will never happen. If you want one. You have to go to a dealer. If i want one, i have to go to a dealer. OR if i want slightly used one that is fully loaded, i can buy at the employee garage and drive it out of the GM compound. But no, you cannot buy factory direct.
5. No, I like my job and they pay me well for it. Plus i think Scott would put the boots to me if he caught whiff of me stealing lol.



Target production.

Well seeing as how we are this far along i guess i can let this tidbit loose.

Last Nov we had a meeting and we were told the production target for the camaro in first year production would be 32,400 units. one shift.

Not it has ballooned up to 100,000 plus possibly. There is a set production schedule from start of model year to end of model year. You cant really deviate much from it. As in line add 10,000k extra units. But if they are selling really well, GM can and will do what they want, when they want. It's their factory.


As for how many colors we can build at the same time. We can paint as many colors as we want at the same time. Its not, were painting yellow for 3 weeks straight. We can paint 1 red, 1 black, 1 orange, 1 white. doesent matter, we have robots with different bells on them to paint whatever color. Hell you could even have a multicolored hippy car if you really wanted.


As for the amount of actual cars built per day. Good question, for you that is. We have been given a rough figure. And line times and job times. We have figured out appoximatly how many we will be building when the ramp up begins. But i am not gonna tell you
Thanks for the info....I didn't know if they could change colors that easily. So it sounds like any color can be built in any order or quantity. It just depends on what colors are available at the time.
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My Dealer is receiving a total of 38 Camaro's in their allotment, I got the 1st SS of the bunch. I can't wait till mine arrives. I am told mine was the 1st ordered in the Houton, Texas area. I am counting the days till mine is delivered.
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My Dealer is receiving a total of 38 Camaro's in their allotment, I got the 1st SS of the bunch. I can't wait till mine arrives. I am told mine was the 1st ordered in the Houton, Texas area. I am counting the days till mine is delivered.
Which dealer? I don't think your dealer could know what and when the other dealers have ordered. You may have been the first at that dealership.
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Which dealer? I don't think your dealer could know what and when the other dealers have ordered. You may have been the first at that dealership.
I'm fairly positive that ours will be the first one in Austin... mostly because the rest of the dealerships in Austin were late to the ordering game... our dealership started calling the other dealerships to check to see if they had extra allocations available and they didn't even know that they could order the car yet... pretty hysterical, if you ask me... if Henna hadn't educated them, they'd have been in the dark still... lol
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I'm fairly positive that ours will be the first one in Austin... mostly because the rest of the dealerships in Austin were late to the ordering game... our dealership started calling the other dealerships to check to see if they had extra allocations available and they didn't even know that they could order the car yet... pretty hysterical, if you ask me... if Henna hadn't educated them, they'd have been in the dark still... lol
Thats still is just hard for me to comprehend....
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