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Old 10-27-2008, 03:14 PM   #15
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You should go on an Accord forum and see if there are as many enthusiast as there are on this forum. That may tell you something,
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:16 PM   #16
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I'm not trying to disrespect Tom or anything, I'm just saying you "get it" or you don't as to why somebody would buy a Camaro over a Accord. Tom's co-worker just doesn't get it. And that's cool.
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:16 PM   #17
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I think it's easier to adjust accordingly with FWD vs. RWD. It really depends on how skilled of a driver you are; I'd have no clue what will happen in a RWD car in the winter when my tail end spins out of control, but guess what? I'll take it slow, learn, and hopefully I won't damage anything.

Btw, since this car is 52/48 F/R weight distribution that should play a large roll in stability, right?
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:50 PM   #18
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And I want pics of your Corvette or you're lying. No Corvette owner would even entertain a question like that from an "Accord" owner....please!
How's this:

From our NCM Delivery


After I installed the body colored dash pieces

After I installed the Borla Sports

A few from my track days at Road America


Ate this for lunch


From the inside

My baseline dyno pull at 650 miles

And the collage my wife made consisting of my build sheet, window sticker and NCM Delivery sign

Oh and my favorite
My vanity plate reads AFVETTE (being retired USAF)


And I can be found over on the Corvette Forum under AFVETTE.

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Old 10-27-2008, 04:55 PM   #19
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you want some salt for that shoe?
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:02 PM   #20
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They don't compare.

Comparing the 6 speed manual Accord Coupe to a Camaro is a very legitimate comparison, and it better be because GM needs the Camaro V6 to pull in people who might otherwise look at an Accord coupe, Nissan Altima V6 coupe, and perhaps a Toyota Solara V6 coupe.

For Camaro to succeed, the V6 must hold its own against those others, even the BMW 1 series. You can no longer look at just the Mustang and Challenger as the only competition for Camaro. It's a global automotive market, and Camaro must compete and succeed if we all want to see it make it past this first run of the 5th generation.

Seriously, what other coupe does GM offer with a manual transmission, DOHC V6, and under 30k? Camaro is it.

Forget the old days when it was only the Mustang. In fact, outside of the SS, I don't think it is fair to limit Camaro's scope to just the same old competition.
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:35 PM   #21
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How's this:

From our NCM Delivery


After I installed the body colored dash pieces

After I installed the Borla Sports

A few from my track days at Road America


Ate this for lunch


From the inside

My baseline dyno pull at 650 miles

And the collage my wife made consisting of my build sheet, window sticker and NCM Delivery sign

Oh and my favorite
My vanity plate reads AFVETTE (being retired USAF)


And I can be found over on the Corvette Forum under AFVETTE.

Do I pass muster???
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:39 PM   #22
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we're cool.

And I am thinking about buying a Z06 since my 2LT/RS will be my DD.

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Old 10-27-2008, 05:41 PM   #23
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This thread is why we need a smiley that is slapping another smiley. The Accord doesn't compete in any way with the Camaro. Rarely do I disrespect a car that we compare to the Camaro in any level of seriousness, but the Camaro is better on all fronts.

Headpunter, feel free to have another period.
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Old 10-27-2008, 06:23 PM   #24
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This thread is why we need a smiley that is slapping another smiley. The Accord doesn't compete in any way with the Camaro. Rarely do I disrespect a car that we compare to the Camaro in any level of seriousness, but the Camaro is better on all fronts.

Headpunter, feel free to have another period.
I honestly think it's a legitimate comparison - for the Accord/Altima Coupe, not sedans (at all). If GM was able to tear me away from Honda to the extent that I'm visiting this site every hour for updates, a new color, a new angle, ANYTHING (and believe me, Honda fans don't go easily), how many more people like me are there? I have NEVER been a fan of the Mustang or Challenger <- retro-revival style wise/engine options - either too much or too little; GM knew they were making this car (Camaro V6) appeal to the import crowd in addition to the muscle fans. All the testing we've been seeing shows they're taking reliability very seriously.
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Old 10-27-2008, 06:37 PM   #25
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I honestly think it's a legitimate comparison - for the Accord/Altima Coupe, not sedans (at all). If GM was able to tear me away from Honda to the extent that I'm visiting this site every hour for updates, a new color, a new angle, ANYTHING (and believe me, Honda fans don't go easily), how many more people like me are there? I have NEVER been a fan of the Mustang or Challenger <- retro-revival style wise/engine options - either too much or too little; GM knew they were making this car (Camaro V6) appeal to the import crowd in addition to the muscle fans. All the testing we've been seeing shows they're taking reliability very seriously.
I'll give you this: the Camaro will take sales away from a lot of other cars. It represents a car segment that is oriented towards both performance and car culture, both of which are appealing to people that want a cool car and a car that makes a nice conversation piece. We here at Camaro5, love the Camaro because it has a lot to do with Chevrolet tradition. Some people will like that it is bringing the glory back to the American market. The V6 Camaro will annihilate the Accord at the track. It will also bring the pain to cars from other manufacturers, but the really impressive additions are options or standard 2LT features, like Bluetooth or ambient lighting. The Accord costs more, offers less, and competes with inferior performance. This is how a lot of cars are in comparison to the Camaro.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:26 PM   #26
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If GM was able to tear me away from Honda to the extent that I'm visiting this site every hour for updates, a new color, a new angle, ANYTHING (and believe me, Honda fans don't go easily), how many more people like me are there?
You can count me on that! I currently own a 2000 Prelude 5 speed I bought brand new in Dec. of 1999. It has over 202,000 miles on it now. There was a time not long ago when I had completely sworn GM off and had comitted to an Accord coupe 6 speed stick for my next car.

You are absolutely right when you say Honda fans don't go easy. Believe me, if it were not for the Camaro I still would get the Accord coupe (although, I admit I have given in to my desire for old fashioned American torque that NO ONE in Japan can do, and will get an SS).

People forget a few things: if the Camaro LT or LS was offered with some next generation of the 3900 and a 4 or 5 speed automatic, it would be certain doom. The fact that it has 300 horse puts it right on top of the Accord's 271 and the Altima's 290. And while the Camaro offers alot more than it ever did, don't forget the Accord EX V6 coupe with a 6 speed stick has everything you can get on the 2LT with the exception of the interior lighting and HIDs (mooroof, heated seats, remote operation of windows and roof, you name it) for exactly the same price ($27.5k is an Accord EX V6 w/o nav).

Those who disagree with this comparison should open their eyes to the global automotive market. The Camaro V6 needs to be premium because the competition is.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:28 PM   #27
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:30 PM   #28
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As others have stated, it's all about the driving experience and the fun. I grew up learning to drive RWD cars and to me there's no comparison between rear wheel drive and wrong wheel drive.

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