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Old 10-31-2008, 11:38 AM   #35
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There's so much hypocrisy in this article that I can't stand it. There are attacks on the big V8, but has anyone noticed that the only V8s being reamed are American? All over the world, V8s are being made. The US makes a lot of them, but don't tell us that our V8 came out at the wrong time because it seems as though every company is releasing new cars between 2009 and 2011. Many of those have V8s. Additionall, gas has plummeted in value. I expect that demand will remain low for a long time and that Americans have decided that 2 major market scares in a lifetime is enough to start switching to alternative fuels. Finally, this author has no respect for competition. When the market was bad for Chevrolet, it was also bad for Ford, and talking about bad Chevys can be easily countered with stories about Escorts falling apart or Thunderbirds with mundane design cues. Chevrolet has some of the highest quality ratings available, so talking about rattling interiors or competing with the 4-year-old Mustang just shows that Ford can't keep up. It's like the heckler at the football game who reminds the opposing team of a 20-year-old scandal. It has nothing to do with the current game, and the game between Chevy and Ford is becoming a massacre. I don't need to tell you who is winning.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:39 AM   #36
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:41 AM   #37
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"in what world did a 1967-1969 Camaro have a pointed nose? "

Obviously this guy has never seen a 1967-1969 Firebird....or perhaps he is just to ignorant to realize the Firebird and Camaro were on same platform.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:19 PM   #38
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"in what world did a 1967-1969 Camaro have a pointed nose? "

Obviously this guy has never seen a 1967-1969 Firebird....or perhaps he is just to ignorant to realize the Firebird and Camaro were on same platform.
The pointed grill is the only thing I didn't care for in 1969 That is why I liked the RS grill and lights so much better in 1969.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:32 PM   #39
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XXXX that report! Sounds like the BS I read in the newspaper after a great classical Boston concert. Narrow minded reporter could only talk about the old farts, dope smoking and other BS. Little was mentioned of the great music.

As for the New Camaro I'm buying one, practical or not.

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Old 10-31-2008, 12:34 PM   #40
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Listen, everyone has their opinion. Some people are die hard Camaro people (us) and some people are die hard Mustang people (like the guy that wrote that). He's entitled to his opinion. Even though the entire world knows it's wrong.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:35 PM   #41
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Sad....

Sad Motortrend would print such "rubbish."

Sad they believe the hatch is one of the most important features on ALL Camaro....when it's only on the 3rd and 4th gens. Shoot, I WANT A TRUNK!!!

Sad they can't understand differences between noses.

Sad that they are living somewhere where they are literally getting POKED on $4.00 gas! Hell, if you are stupid enough to pay for it, you are stupid enough to write this article. (Filled up for $2.09 yesterday).

Sad that they have to try to skew their mpg #'s to make it look worse. 20mpg's? We all know that's just a wee bit low for the Camaro. But hey, if it makes stupid look better!!, right?

To the three that wrote it...

I forgive your ignorance. Someone has pulled the wool over your eyes and brainwashed you into thinking that the Mustang is the all high and mighty powerful one. Yep...they stuck around...yep they sold a lot of cars...but where you are wrong?.....

The Mustang just can't compete with the General.

Wait....you three already knew this....which is why you are venting.

...mphf......whatever.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:37 PM   #42
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Chevrolet has some of the highest quality ratings available, so talking about rattling interiors or competing with the 4-year-old Mustang just shows that Ford can't keep up.
don't ford cars have a higher quality rating than GM?
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:44 PM   #43
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don't ford cars have a higher quality rating than GM?
not better then the newest cars added to the Gm line, (g8, cts, tahoe, malibu just to name a few)
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:58 PM   #44
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Listen, everyone has their opinion. Some people are die hard Camaro people (us) and some people are die hard Mustang people (like the guy that wrote that). He's entitled to his opinion. Even though the entire world knows it's wrong.
Very true. But people don't like it when other people don't agree with them, opinion or not.

For example, in my opinion, the chick on top (A) is hotter than the chick on bottom (B)

A



B



Now, is my opinion WRONG? Doubt it. But is it a FACT? No. Chick B might look hot if she took that mask off.

Which is better below. A or B?

A



B



I would say that both B's have a lot in common
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:25 PM   #46
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That guy doesnt know anything.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:33 PM   #47
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don't ford cars have a higher quality rating than GM?
I know you have a lot of loyalty to Ford, but ratings don't come from enthusiasts most of the time. Cars like the G8 and Malibu are being compared to BMWs. You can't exactly say that about the Mustang.

Let's not confuse competitors with equals.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:49 PM   #48
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Every muscle car has a diehard following.

Mustangs and Camaro's have been at each other for years.

With that said, Mustang followers have enjoyed several years without any competition. That's now over and the Muscle Car Wars will start all over.

Everyone who runs a race by themselves is a winner.

I for one stand with the Fbodfather and welcome the competition.

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Old 10-31-2008, 02:01 PM   #49
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I know you have a lot of loyalty to Ford, but ratings don't come from enthusiasts most of the time. Cars like the G8 and Malibu are being compared to BMWs. You can't exactly say that about the Mustang.

Let's not confuse competitors with equals.
i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw but its one of the better cars GM has

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1224...googlenews_wsj
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i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw
The old one had the appearance and quality of a school bus. The new one is pretty amazing. You should go look at one. Even you will be impressed.
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:03 PM   #51
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i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw
Doubts and driving experiences are two different things. Blur's correct - such comparisons (although a stretch, I agree) have been made, which is astounding.
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