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Old 10-31-2008, 11:44 AM   #43
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don't ford cars have a higher quality rating than GM?
not better then the newest cars added to the Gm line, (g8, cts, tahoe, malibu just to name a few)
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:58 AM   #44
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Listen, everyone has their opinion. Some people are die hard Camaro people (us) and some people are die hard Mustang people (like the guy that wrote that). He's entitled to his opinion. Even though the entire world knows it's wrong.
Very true. But people don't like it when other people don't agree with them, opinion or not.

For example, in my opinion, the chick on top (A) is hotter than the chick on bottom (B)

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Now, is my opinion WRONG? Doubt it. But is it a FACT? No. Chick B might look hot if she took that mask off.

Which is better below. A or B?

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I would say that both B's have a lot in common
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:18 PM   #45
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:25 PM   #46
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That guy doesnt know anything.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:33 PM   #47
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don't ford cars have a higher quality rating than GM?
I know you have a lot of loyalty to Ford, but ratings don't come from enthusiasts most of the time. Cars like the G8 and Malibu are being compared to BMWs. You can't exactly say that about the Mustang.

Let's not confuse competitors with equals.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:49 PM   #48
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Every muscle car has a diehard following.

Mustangs and Camaro's have been at each other for years.

With that said, Mustang followers have enjoyed several years without any competition. That's now over and the Muscle Car Wars will start all over.

Everyone who runs a race by themselves is a winner.

I for one stand with the Fbodfather and welcome the competition.

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Old 10-31-2008, 01:01 PM   #49
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I know you have a lot of loyalty to Ford, but ratings don't come from enthusiasts most of the time. Cars like the G8 and Malibu are being compared to BMWs. You can't exactly say that about the Mustang.

Let's not confuse competitors with equals.
i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw but its one of the better cars GM has

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1224...googlenews_wsj
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i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw
The old one had the appearance and quality of a school bus. The new one is pretty amazing. You should go look at one. Even you will be impressed.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:03 PM   #51
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i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw
Doubts and driving experiences are two different things. Blur's correct - such comparisons (although a stretch, I agree) have been made, which is astounding.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:07 PM   #52
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its a fwd bread and butter car, its not a rwd performance oriented sedan like the G8, so you really can't make the comparison
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i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw but its one of the better cars GM has

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1224...googlenews_wsj
Malibu build quality is actually better than the BMW build quality. Granted, the BMW has the performance edge. But in terms of build quality, the new Malibu has that wrapped up.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:23 PM   #54
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The A/B picture comparison is not really accurate. The Camaro is bigger and has bigger displacement but no overhead cam. The Mustang is smaller and has smaller displacement and a SOHC or DOHC depending on the model. This is a more accurate comparison:

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its a fwd bread and butter car, its not a rwd performance oriented sedan like the G8, so you really can't make the comparison
BMW has bread and butter cars too. Why does everyone assume the comparison is to an M3 whenever someone brings up "compares favorably to a BMW. Being an owner of a lower end 3 series, I can safely say: it's a wonderful feel, stiff without being harsh, but cruise control would be nice, and I wish I didn't have to be so gentle with the transmission.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:32 PM   #56
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The old one had the appearance and quality of a school bus. The new one is pretty amazing. You should go look at one. Even you will be impressed.
i am impressed and i'm glad domestics have improved their game, malibu is no exception, but to say that GM is leaps and bounds ahead in quality compared to Ford is just not accurate and to think that Ford won't be bringing their A game moving forward is wishful thinking
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