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Old 10-31-2008, 01:03 PM   #51
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i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw
Doubts and driving experiences are two different things. Blur's correct - such comparisons (although a stretch, I agree) have been made, which is astounding.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:07 PM   #52
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its a fwd bread and butter car, its not a rwd performance oriented sedan like the G8, so you really can't make the comparison
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:07 PM   #53
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i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw but its one of the better cars GM has

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1224...googlenews_wsj
Malibu build quality is actually better than the BMW build quality. Granted, the BMW has the performance edge. But in terms of build quality, the new Malibu has that wrapped up.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:23 PM   #54
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The A/B picture comparison is not really accurate. The Camaro is bigger and has bigger displacement but no overhead cam. The Mustang is smaller and has smaller displacement and a SOHC or DOHC depending on the model. This is a more accurate comparison:

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Old 10-31-2008, 01:26 PM   #55
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its a fwd bread and butter car, its not a rwd performance oriented sedan like the G8, so you really can't make the comparison
BMW has bread and butter cars too. Why does everyone assume the comparison is to an M3 whenever someone brings up "compares favorably to a BMW. Being an owner of a lower end 3 series, I can safely say: it's a wonderful feel, stiff without being harsh, but cruise control would be nice, and I wish I didn't have to be so gentle with the transmission.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:32 PM   #56
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The old one had the appearance and quality of a school bus. The new one is pretty amazing. You should go look at one. Even you will be impressed.
i am impressed and i'm glad domestics have improved their game, malibu is no exception, but to say that GM is leaps and bounds ahead in quality compared to Ford is just not accurate and to think that Ford won't be bringing their A game moving forward is wishful thinking
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:42 PM   #57
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Very true. But people don't like it when other people don't agree with them, opinion or not.

For example, in my opinion, the chick on top (A) is hotter than the chick on bottom (B)

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Now, is my opinion WRONG? Doubt it. But is it a FACT? No. Chick B might look hot if she took that mask off.

Which is better below. A or B?

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I would say that both B's have a lot in common

LMFAO! Good point. In both cases, A is the right answer.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:44 PM   #58
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The A/B picture comparison is not really accurate. The Camaro is bigger and has bigger displacement but no overhead cam. The Mustang is smaller and has smaller displacement and a SOHC or DOHC depending on the model. This is a more accurate comparison:

A



B





A



B

Here's where you're wrong. The first two pictures are close. Meaning, the performance of each would be nearly the same. In the case of the second two pictures, just looking at them it is clear which one is better.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:47 PM   #59
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maybe for you, but i "wood" get much better performance from B than A :P
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:54 PM   #60
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:56 PM   #61
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maybe for you, but i "wood" get much better performance from B than A :P
Sounds like in your case, it is a small "would".
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:57 PM   #62
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maybe, until i supercharge
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:16 PM   #63
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:17 PM   #64
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Ok fine.

Mustang GT + supercharger > Camaro SS Stock.

Stock for stock you get a whole lotta



And a whole bunch of


Mustang.....Camaro

on the side.



Woo Hoo, I get to use my favorite smileys in the same post!!!!!

I'm just messing with you Georgie. Totally playing around.
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:18 PM   #65
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all in good fun as always
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:25 PM   #66
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i thnk one of them tried to say that its jst late nw, being the concept ready since 5 yrs
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:05 PM   #68
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maybe, until i supercharge
I will admit, the Mustang GT with a supercharger that has 15 lb's of boost would be faster than a Camaro SS stock. But after intake and exhaust on my Maro', your screwed again. Not to mention needing a new engine cause 15 lb's on a FORD = BOOOOM

All I have to say is if I can beat NEW GT's in my 07 TC....I probably won't even waste the gas once I have my Camaro, since I consider it's direct competitor the GT500, even though they aren't in the same range, putting a stock GT against a stock SS isn't a fair battle.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:08 PM   #69
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Very true. But people don't like it when other people don't agree with them, opinion or not.

For example, in my opinion, the chick on top (A) is hotter than the chick on bottom (B)

A



B



Now, is my opinion WRONG? Doubt it. But is it a FACT? No. Chick B might look hot if she took that mask off.

Which is better below. A or B?

A



B



I would say that both B's have a lot in common
I have a good chance of driving both B's right now than the A's hahahaha
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:16 PM   #70
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I will admit, the Mustang GT with a supercharger that has 15 lb's of boost would be faster than a Camaro SS stock. But after intake and exhaust on my Maro', your screwed again. Not to mention needing a new engine cause 15 lb's on a FORD = BOOOOM

All I have to say is if I can beat NEW GT's in my 07 TC....I probably won't even waste the gas once I have my Camaro, since I consider it's direct competitor the GT500, even though they aren't in the same range, putting a stock GT against a stock SS isn't a fair battle.
what do you mean. you can get a warrantied supercharger from Ford that's good for 500 crank HP. the SOHC 3V internals are good with stock clutch up to 550 crank. the one thing you'll need to change are the brakes. the dang engine has been one of the top 10 engines for four years now; its a good piece of machinery.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:17 PM   #71
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And this MT rant is gonna matter......how?
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:25 PM   #72
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what do you mean. you can get a warrantied supercharger from Ford that's good for 500 crank HP. the SOHC 3V internals are good with stock clutch up to 550 crank. the one thing you'll need to change are the brakes. the dang engine has been one of the top 10 engines for four years now; its a good piece of machinery.
I was being somewhat sarcastic. All i'm saying is I watched my friends Kenne Belle Cobra blow up inside of the hood. blew the latches off. Also, for some reason most cars I see on fire are Fords, particularly Mustangs. And as for the motor being a good piece of machinery, that may be true that it's "good" but they haven't changed the damn thing other than a tweak here or there in effin' 50 years! and now they are bringin the 5.0 back...it's like they are stuck on those two motors...Part for part, Camaro beats the current Mustang that's out now. Also, the 4.6 really sounds puny IMO, kinda like if a 4 banger and a 350 had sex, the 4.6 would pop out.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:28 PM   #73
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the 5.0 is the next gen modular motor. it will be a DOHC 4V. the old 5.0 was the old pushrod 302

oh man, i don't know why you would say it sounds puny... you start the thing up rumble rumble rumble... sounds good, might be one of the best stock exhaust notes.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:32 PM   #74
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the 5.0 is the next gen modular motor. it will be a DOHC 4V. the old 5.0 was the old pushrod 302

oh man, i don't know why you would say it sounds puny... you start the thing up rumble rumble rumble... sounds good, might be one of the best stock exhaust notes.
i liked the old 5.0....
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:45 PM   #75
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and every time I hear the tone of a rustang exhaust note I ALWAYS know what kind of car it is. that sound makes me wanna punch a baby...worst v8 exhuast note ever IMO the award goes to....you guessed it.

I even read about transformers blowing up at the power grid station in MUSTANG, OKLA
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