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Old 09-28-2006, 11:55 AM   #18
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My view is this , the challenger comes out in mid 08 for the 09 model and the new corvette (what ever it is called) comes out then too! so the camaro will probably be seen next year in show and sold mid 08 as an 09 model.

This is not new , it has happened many times since the beginning of autos sales for demand . the actual first camaro was designed in the early 60s and released after the boom of the mustang .
all these dates 09 ,08 ,07 are just numbers not actual release times ,remember the new sales year comes around mid july for some car manufacturers and new designs can be 2 yrs before actual calendar yr(2000 doge neon released 1998 ).
SO put money away now or be ready to see your baby go by with someone else driving her!
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I believe it. GM is taking ALOT and I mean ALOT of heat recently for financial reasons. Of course the biggest push is for them to get some better products out there, and whats their one shining star right now? THe camaro. I bet they have all the manpower thats needed on this car right now to get it right and get it out to us. I do believe we will see it in full production ready form within 12 moths, guaranteed. And I mean within 12 months, so less then 12 months. wooohoo
I agree GM has got to get some better designed cars on the market. I don't know about anyone else, but I've been seeing alot of toyota camry's and all of the Lexus models GS,ES and IS 300's on the road. NICE cars with great styling. They need to think outside of the box.
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I agree GM has got to get some better designed cars on the market. I don't know about anyone else, but I've been seeing alot of toyota camry's and all of the Lexus models GS,ES and IS 300's on the road. NICE cars with great styling. They need to think outside of the box.
Where have you been? Have you seen the new Buicks or the Pontiac G6 that is flying off showroom floors?

Not to mention the Solstice/Sky platform
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:25 PM   #21
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Where have you been? Have you seen the new Buicks or the Pontiac G6 that is flying off showroom floors?

Not to mention the Solstice/Sky platform
I agree that the Buick has some nice designs, but you can't tell them apart. I can name the LaCross, but what is the name of the other one. All the grilles look the same. From the cars to the SUV's. No distinction. The G6 is a nice looking car and is selling well. The hard top convertible IS selling like hot cakes as is the Solstice/sky. They compared a Colbalt SS and a subaru W3( the pocket rocket) and the winner was the colbalt. But let's kick it up a notch in styling. Remember why Oldsmobile went bye bye? No distinction between the models. The new Chevy/ GMC trucks and SUV's are doing very well, and the interiors are getting great reviews. Great designs and upgraded materials win. Have you seen the new Lincoln Navigator? What a DOG. Ugly!!
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Old 09-28-2006, 07:12 PM   #22
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well that's the thing quality of american cars has gone up. but the reputation with a lot of people is that american cars suck. that's why one of my friends won't buy american. I wanted to smack her in the face when she said my saturn ion would break down at 50,000 miles. right now I'm sitting at 45,000. and well on the way to have 48k on it by the end of dec. I haven't had one problem out of the car. oh well she will learn the hard way.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:28 PM   #23
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at a local saturn sealership here in canton they have a wall of high mileage cars. they have a 100,000 mile club and 200,000 mile club and up. there are over 20 people in the 100,000 mile club and a couple in the 200k club and i think there was 3 or 4 in the 300 k club. your ion is gonna go the distance.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:47 PM   #24
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well that's the thing quality of american cars has gone up. but the reputation with a lot of people is that american cars suck. that's why one of my friends won't buy american. I wanted to smack her in the face when she said my saturn ion would break down at 50,000 miles. right now I'm sitting at 45,000. and well on the way to have 48k on it by the end of dec. I haven't had one problem out of the car. oh well she will learn the hard way.
Knock on wood now that you said that!
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:09 PM   #25
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Knock on wood now that you said that!
LOL. yea I noticed the clutch seems to be slipping right now. oh well. what can I say I'm hard on it. I traded my freakin trans am in on it and then got stuck with it after the divorce. lol. fun stuff.
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:51 PM   #26
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No offense, but my girlfriend has a 2001 Saturn, not sure what the actual model it is, it doesn't say on any part of the car. But she has a little over 60,000 miles on it and her transmission (and some other things that I'm not sure of) had to have some work because it's shift points were off and it feels so much more dainty than my 1996 Intrepid. My car still feels like a nicer car than hers after 120k and being totaled. I had to have the frame stretched. She also just had her brakes replaced, I believe when I replaced mine over the summer it was the first for them, but I could be mistaken. Older Saturns (aka not in the past few years) really feel like cheap cars. Just my .02
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Old 09-30-2006, 09:21 AM   #27
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Can't see production cars being ready within 12 months. Plant has to be set-up first.
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:32 AM   #28
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yeah they will be ready in the next 12 months. if they already have 1 production model done, that meens they have everything how they want it and the companies that make the sheet metal or plastic already have a mold.the longest part of getting a car going has already been done...... and thats the concept stage. now its "a piece of cake" for GM to getthe rest of this going. in no time theyll be making thousands of those cars a week and they will be out on the street. so TEAM CHEVY it is possible,
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I agree that molds for plastics and dies for sheet metal may have been used to create the first production model, but the actual plant has to be set-up to accommodate the new build and it's not ready for that stage yet. So yes, BlacLac02 it is "possible" but not very "likely" to happen within 12 months.
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yeah it is. if they are saying that they plan on having it out in the next year what does that tell you. obviously they are on top of their game and know exactly what they are doing. i wouldnt put anything past them.anything is possible especially with the right amount of drive and anxious customers...... it will be ready in time
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:06 PM   #31
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Ok guys...no one from GM ever officially announced it will be coming out within a year. Let's just sit back and see what happens after SEMA. If nothing is released at SEMA, I will be very suprised...and will be expecting something by the end of the year.
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tag did you not se the article on the home page...... "the show claims that Terry Woychowski said that GM was in a “rush to get it [Camaro] out the door,” and “don’t be surprised if it’s by this time next year.”
they never said directly that "yes its coming out on october 2nd 2007" but you have to read into it more than what you see. how people from gm answer question are how you need to see it. he "hints" to you but no he will never say until the day before. because hes not allowed to but no one said he can hint toward something.
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I actually also hope GM keeps thier word about it coming out around 08 because thats around the time I'll be able to afford it.
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tag did you not se the article on the home page...... "the show claims that Terry Woychowski said that GM was in a “rush to get it [Camaro] out the door,” and “don’t be surprised if it’s by this time next year.”
they never said directly that "yes its coming out on october 2nd 2007" but you have to read into it more than what you see. how people from gm answer question are how you need to see it. he "hints" to you but no he will never say until the day before. because hes not allowed to but no one said he can hint toward something.
Of course I read it. I know people can hint at things and I'm right there w/ you hoping it will come out in 07. I wish more GM emp's would hint more about everything...engines, dates, etc. After all, I've been saying 40th Anniversary Edition like 4 or 5 times. But that's still not a confirmed GM announcement. It's just "hinting".
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