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Old 06-13-2010, 03:06 AM   #18

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To the OP. I think you should be able to get a new Z28 with little options but if you want to throw everything but the kitchen sink at her than I think you should be able to do that too. This will satisfy alot bigger of a customer base. The LS7 is not going to happen and I think it shouldnt for many reasons. First and formost is that a LS7 Z28 is not going to compete with the target rival GT500 while meeting emmision standards. I know everyone wants this car to be light, crazy powerfull and can handle like its on rails but you cant have all of those and keep it in a good competitive price range. The bad thing about it is the only way to keep the car light is to do a NA motor, but that would mean it would not meet its HP goal. The only way for the car to meet its HP goal is with Forced Induction and that meens its going to get heavier. They could go the SC route while making a aluminum frame and using carbon fiber body panels to keep the weight down but what do you think that would do to the price? I am sorry they are putting the Z28 name on it while adding weight and a supercharger but this is the reality im afraid. I think they are using the Z28 name because they have little options on what to call it. I would have prefered ZL1 or maybe a completely new title. I think alot of us need to stop comparing this new car to the original Z28 and need to accept that Gm is calling it the Z28 because they felt that was the only name availible that was widely familar.

I for one would have liked the Z28 to be a tweaked SS. It would be a manual only car with a shorter throwing more precise shifter, 3.73 gears standard with the availibility to upgrade to 4.10, lighter wheels with wider skickier tires, beefier control arms with stiffer bushings, stiffer springs with 1" lower ride height, re valved better shocks geared for handeling, better sway bars with stiffer bushings, improved brakes, a LS3 with a different cam and valve springs that are more aggresive, improved air induction and exhaust manifold and a more aggesive tune with a 7000 Rpm red line. The car would have a base MSRP of about 36K and you would be able to option it out like the SS. This would compete very well with the current GT that has the 3.73 and brembo package. You could then make the supercharged Camaro and call it ZL1 or whatever to directly compete with the GT500. All of this is not going to happen but it is what I think should have if it was a perfect world.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:23 AM   #19
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Not exactly the car I'm looking for, however, that's one Heck of a Z28
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:40 PM   #20
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:53 PM   #21

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Not what I see in a Z/28 ,but to each is own.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:30 PM   #22
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For what you want, it won't cost 40k. Your idea was to take a ~$31k car and add $9k worth of go-fast goodies ... well, that won't work out, at least not with the parts list you have. The 525-550 hp NA engine alone would eat up most of that budget. And the supercharged LSA (which is not just a supercharged LS3) would cost about the same (if not less), with at least as much power and a lot more torque, and its development and tooling has already been paid for by the CTS-V.

GM could do the car you propose, maybe, but not for the price you'd like (though thats true for just about every dream Z28 on this forum). Overall, I like your concept and I even planned out a similar one a few months ago, with a powerful NA engine and attention paid to keeping the car light. I think my target was 3600 lbs or so with over 500 hp, with things like light weight body panels and base LS interior. And I think I claimed mid to high 40's for the price
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Old 06-17-2010, 05:57 PM   #23
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Put my name down for one.That spec will suit me down to the ground.
I used that philosophy when i made a commitment to buy a 1ss.The cash i saved on leather and interior options,i spent on performance parts,it is a performance car after all.
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Do you really think the GT500 is grossly overpriced?? Think about the performance.. I think it's in line. In fact it’s probably one of the best bang for the buck cars out.

The 1999 FRC Vette wasn't that special that's why the price jumped when it changed to the Z06. The FRC would be be like keeping the same LS3 engine, shedding maybe 100 lbs, some suspension, and stiffening the chassis. Not a whole lot to it.
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Old 06-17-2010, 07:42 PM   #25
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OP is closer to a ZL1 than Z/28...

It needs a tight wound little D.I. 5.3 litre 9,000 rpm redline angry mouse motor, dry sump oiling, massaged gas tank,
light weight Recaro interior, lightening tricks without pissing off the bean counters, CTS-V brakes, 18" wheels, fat tires, stiffer suspension, sways and hi-durometer bushings, ss brake lines, ~4.30 rear axle ratio and close ratio tranny. ... and a short throw shifter.

THAT is a Z/28
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