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Old 11-28-2008, 02:45 PM   #1
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With GM on the brink, what will happen to the Corvette?



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Some Corvette fans and avid forum members over at GM Inside News have already asked the unfathomable question of what automaker should take over the reigns of America's longest-running sports car if its parent company were to lose custody. Their answer, rather shockingly, was Toyota. We sure hope it doesn't come to that. Still, tough questions deserve thoughtful answers, and Motor Trend is asking away. Even if The General survives, what does the future hold for Team Corvette, which has seen its ranks diminished in the past few weeks with the loss of key players including Vehicle Line Executive Tom Wallace and John Heinricy, test-driver extraordinaire and director of the performance division?

With such important personalities retiring from the 'Vette project, one might wonder if GM's iconic performance car will lose out on planned development. That seems like a real possibility, but we need to realize that R&D funds may be better spent keeping the leaky company afloat, something that the Corvette isn't a major part of. At least there's an excellent, proven platform for the new team to build from.


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Old 11-28-2008, 03:25 PM   #2
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and some dealers even seem to want it to happen:

http://www.corvetteconti.com/blog/index.php?paged=2

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Old 11-28-2008, 03:45 PM   #3
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TOYOTA?>!?!?!?!?!?!?!

*severe heart attack*

We really have lost all sense of 'Americana' haven't we....:(
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:18 PM   #4
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TOYOTA?>!?!?!?!?!?!?!

*severe heart attack*

We really have lost all sense of 'Americana' haven't we....:(
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:47 PM   #6
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Well to be perfectly honest, I can't think of any company that would maintain the spirit any better than Toyota. Certainly not "dime-a-dozen Ford" or "looks cool for about a week" Dodge. Toyota has a performance-driven concept in my opinion. The only thing more acceptable to me would be an independent company buying the division, and that would be really nerve-wracking in and of itself.

Anyway, I like the point already made...GM isn't going anywhere.
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:56 PM   #7
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If Toyota takes control of the Corvette, I swear on all that is holy that I will buy a one way ticket to Japan and suicide bomb the Toyota headquarters.
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:17 PM   #8
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Well to be perfectly honest, I can't think of any company that would maintain the spirit any better than Toyota. Certainly not "dime-a-dozen Ford" or "looks cool for about a week" Dodge. Toyota has a performance-driven concept in my opinion. The only thing more acceptable to me would be an independent company buying the division, and that would be really nerve-wracking in and of itself.

Anyway, I like the point already made...GM isn't going anywhere.
Have you ever driven a Toyota or Lexus? The word appliance is the only word that fully sums up those products. Fun is to Toyota as not-badge-engineering is to GM. The cars are designed to show good results on paper, but on subjective qualities they're about as fun to drive as a video game car.
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Old 11-28-2008, 08:11 PM   #9
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If Toyota takes control of the Corvette, I swear on all that is holy that I will buy a one way ticket to Japan and suicide bomb the Toyota headquarters.
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The conti thing is a joke. Read carefully...WINK. btw That domain is NOT registered.

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Old 11-29-2008, 12:04 PM   #11
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:50 PM   #12
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If Toyota takes control of the Corvette, I swear on all that is holy that I will buy a one way ticket to Japan and suicide bomb the Toyota headquarters.
You've thought about that too?
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Well to be perfectly honest, I can't think of any company that would maintain the spirit any better than Toyota.
Whatever you're smoking I'd like to know... J/K

Toyota used to have some really great performance cars like the Supra, Celica, & MR2. I used to be a pretty big fan of Toyota when these cars were out, But Toyota slowly killed off these cars and they offer nothing worthy of being considered performance oriented... Unless you're talking about the Lexus IS-F... Toyota has done a HORRIBLE job of maintaining any spirit...

They've become too blinded with their global conquest.... I have no respect whatsoever for the Toyota of today...
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Whatever you're smoking I'd like to know... J/K

Toyota used to have some really great performance cars like the Supra, Celica, & MR2. I used to be a pretty big fan of Toyota when these cars were out, But Toyota slowly killed off these cars and they offer nothing worthy of being considered performance oriented... Unless you're talking about the Lexus IS-F... Toyota has done a HORRIBLE job of maintaining any spirit...

They've become too blinded with their global conquest.... I have no respect whatsoever for the Toyota of today...
Well, I guess it is possible I was living in the Toyota of the 20th century. I might have to retract my statement, but ONLY if someone can convince me that another company could do it better.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:35 PM   #15
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:38 AM   #16
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Well, I guess it is possible I was living in the Toyota of the 20th century. I might have to retract my statement, but ONLY if someone can convince me that another company could do it better.
Yeah, Although being a GM guy I had liked certain Toyotas until 2005 when Toyota finally killed off the Celica and MR Spyder.

Since then their designs have been conservative and unmoving. They've become way too mainstream....

Now Nissan, and Mazda have always impressed me. Pretty much every vehicle in Mazdas lineup has a little bit of soul to them. And well the only car from Nissan that I'd ever buy would be a Z, but the Altima, and Maxima have always been pretty fun cars for being mid-size sedans...
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This might be crazy-talk here, but if GM should fail, the Corvette should die, just as the Camaro should. They're not just cars to a lot of people, they're icons, just as GM is, and I'd much rather see them die with the company that gave birth to them, and that's managed to make sure they live up to the standards of the many enthusiasts, then to see Toyota or any other company for that matter micro-manage them from an office, and kill the spirit behind them. If GM goes, and I don't think it will, let them die with dignity. I don't want to see Corvettes with "VTEC V8s".
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:57 AM   #18
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Yep...if GM dies, I would rather the vette go down in history with it. I'm sorry to those that don't agree.

I would NEVER want to see that Toyota badge on a vette. NO SIR.
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Yeah, Although being a GM guy I had liked certain Toyotas until 2005 when Toyota finally killed off the Celica and MR Spyder.
Both of those cars were anemic underperformers in their final iterations. Not really stars to begin with.
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Both of those cars were anemic underperformers in their final iterations. Not really stars to begin with.
Very true. The Celica was a crap shoot in its last generation, although the Celica was never a stellar performer like its more expensive sibling the Supra was.

The MR2 Turbo was a pretty decent performing car for its price. Very affordable (well kinda not at its time) and a pretty well performing track vehicle for what it was. The old MR2 Turbos are still competing very well in autocross events to this day.

But yeah when the MR Spyder came out it disappointed me because I had always preferred the hard/t-top that the MR2 had. While the MR Spyder was slow to begin with it was built with tuning intended, which was something I always thought was pretty cool of Toyota to do. All it needed was a turbo kit and with how light it weighed that 1.8L i-VVT converted to F.I. was capable of being a 10 second car...
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In the event of a Toyota buyout, the noble Corvette would, like a samuri, take its own life to preserve its honor.
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All it needed was a turbo kit and with how light it weighed that 1.8L i-VVT converted to F.I. was capable of being a 10 second car...
Terrible motor. We have one in the shop burning a quart of oil every 100-150 miles. It's in a Toyota...I mean Pontiac Vibe. Awful.
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Terrible motor. We have one in the shop burning a quart of oil every 100-150 miles. It's in a Toyota...I mean Pontiac Vibe. Awful.
That's a surprise, from everyone that I've talked to has praised the 1.8L i-VVT.
Heck even Lotus still sources this engine from Toyota and uses it in the Elise/Exige...
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Lemme restate what I said earlier because I was wrong. As a Chevy the Corvette will outlive the Planet Earth .
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In the event of a Toyota buyout, the noble Corvette would, like a samuri, take its own life to preserve its honor.
not another thread like this please *facepalm*
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