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Old 07-01-2010, 02:56 PM   #18
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Same here it's like every other commercial. Most people don't know the V6 Camaro has more HP and an EPA rated 1 less MPG... If they did via a commercial all the time... they might reconsider.

I was talking to a guy the other day about my Camaro and he started bragging how the new Mustang gets over 30 mpg and has over 300hp. He said yeah they were the first American muscle to do it... I said nope sorry the 2010 Camaro has 312hp and gets an estimated 30... You should have seen the look on his face. I love peoples reaction when I tell them I get 25.2 mpg on long road trips in my SS. LOL
Lol bro I have the same reaction when I tell ppl that. Its awesome, chevy should make a commercial for the camaro though. I think it would boost sales
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Old 07-01-2010, 02:57 PM   #19
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Totally can understand why the camaro has been selling, the mustang hasnt really changed much from its 2005 remodel. Yes it has refreshed but still looks awfully similar to the 2005-2009 mustangs. The camaro is pretty much a brand new car, priced competitively, a car many generations of people have seen. The Heritage of the camaro is at a high teir just like the mustang. With a whole new body and sense of styling,(plus all the advertisement mumbo jumbo) its hard to pick the mustang or challenger when the new camaro came out.
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Old 07-01-2010, 02:57 PM   #20
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The HUD is standard only on the 2SS/2LT. It is unavailable on other trim levels
Yes, I know that... I was questioning the statement that the Hurst shifter became standard on MT 2SS/LT models... which, to my knowledge, it is not, unless something changed.
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Same here it's like every other commercial. Most people don't know the V6 Camaro has more HP and an EPA rated 1 less MPG... If they did via a commercial all the time... they might reconsider.

I was talking to a guy the other day about my Camaro and he started bragging how the new Mustang gets over 30 mpg and has over 300hp. He said yeah they were the first American muscle to do it... I said nope sorry the 2010 Camaro has 312hp and gets an estimated 30... You should have seen the look on his face. I love peoples reaction when I tell them I get 25.2 mpg on long road trips in my SS. LOL
Ya but there is a big performance differnece between a V6 Mustang and a V6 Camaro
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Old 07-01-2010, 02:59 PM   #22
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Quite frankly if you think about, the Camaro has been doing fantastic in sales as there has really been no marketing for it all, unless you consider the Transformer movies. Analyze things okay, the new mustang has put up a deal of marketing in tv spots and magazine ads just to sell 8,900 units in June, that's just 1,400 more units than the Camaro which really has no marketing for it really. The 5th gen Camaro itself has become a pop icon within the past two years with just word of mouth and such not just with car enthusiasts and adults but children as well.

If you have child pick between a toy mustang or toy camaro they picked the Cam because of bumblebee. I know that Cam-heads are rolling their eyes cause of transformers and that's fine, but what that does is make the Camaro more apparent to the adults because of what their child likes or is interested in.

So in consideration on how little money that GM has put into marketing quite possibly their top selling vehicle, the amount of units that sold in comparison just under 1500 units from the Stang and also the huge amount of anticipation of the Z28 and convertible still to come with current sales still strong. The Camaro and GM has been a great success even with these sales, the true outlook and final comparison will probably be within 5 months of the new mustang sales to see how they slide or increase on both companies to determine a true pony car winner.
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Old 07-01-2010, 02:59 PM   #23
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Quite frankly if you think about, the Camaro has been doing fantastic in sales as there has really been no marketing for it all, unless you consider the Transformer movies. Analyze things okay, the new mustang has put up a deal of marketing in tv spots and magazine ads just to sell 8,900 units in June, that's just 1,400 more units than the Camaro which really has no marketing for it really. The 5th gen Camaro itself has become a pop icon within the past two years with just word of mouth and such not just with car enthusiasts and adults but children as well.

If you have child pick between a toy mustang or toy camaro they picked the Cam because of bumblebee. I know that Cam-heads are rolling their eyes cause of transformers and that's fine, but what that does is make the Camaro more apparent to the adults because of what their child likes or is interested in.

So in consideration on how little money that GM has put into marketing quite possibly their top selling vehicle, the amount of units that sold in comparison just under 1500 units from the Stang and also the huge amount of anticipation of the Z28 and convertible still to come with current sales still strong. The Camaro and GM has been a great success even with these sales, the true outlook and final comparison will probably be within 5 months of the new mustang sales to see how they slide or increase on both companies to determine a true pony car winner.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:00 PM   #24
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Yes they were successful but I would just like to see more exposure like the Mustang. Maybe when Transformers 3 comes out. Lol.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:13 PM   #25
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So in consideration on how little money that GM has put into marketing quite possibly their top selling vehicle, the amount of units that sold in comparison just under 1500 units from the Stang and also the huge amount of anticipation of the Z28 and convertible still to come with current sales still strong. The Camaro and GM has been a great success even with these sales, the true outlook and final comparison will probably be within 5 months of the new mustang sales to see how they slide or increase on both companies to determine a true pony car winner.
It's no where near GM's top selling vehicle.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:21 PM   #26
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So in consideration on how little money that GM has put into marketing quite possibly their top selling vehicle
Best selling GM vehicles...

1. Chevrolet Silverado @ 30,994 units sold.
2. Chevrolet Malibu @ 20,720 units sold.
3. Chevrolet Impala @ 14,451 units sold.
4. Chevrolet Equinox @ 11,490 units sold.
5. GMC Sierra @ 11,441 units sold
6. Chevrolet Traverse @ 11,371 units sold.
7. Chevrolet Cobalt @ 10,141 units sold.
8. Chevrolet Camaro @ 7,540 units sold.
9. Chevrolet Tahoe @ 6,809 units sold.
10. Chevrolet Express @ 6,535 units sold.

Camaro's pretty far from being top-selling.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:28 PM   #27
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will we stay on top even though the 5.0 is back out?
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:40 PM   #28
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Probably very very few were 2010's. The dealers were doing fire sales on the 2010's for the first few months of the year to clear them out.

The majority of the Mustang sales would be 2011's.

Dont be so sure the Camaro will recapture the sales lead.
Incorrect, last month alone nearly 45% of Mustang sales were 2010 MY. It is typical of current MY offerings to last to the end of the Cal. Year. Just look back to last December - almost all the year-end sales were 2009MY closeout (GM's Red Tag did not even include 2010MY).

Certainly the majority were 2011's, but not the vast majority. Probably 1/3 still 2010 MY.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:57 PM   #29
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I also think last month's sales may have taken a dip because of the model year change-over as well. I run forums for the GM Lambda crossovers and have tracked sales for them for over 3 years now and each year around the time of the model year switch, there's a dip in sales. I assume it's because buyers start deciding to hold off on purchasing a 2010 when they know the 2011s will be out within a month. A VERY small percentage of regular car buyers custom order cars. They just visit the dealership and buy the one on the lot that comes closest to matching their color and option preferences. Those are the buyers that hold off purchasing a 2010 on the lot when they read or hear that the 2011s are just around the corner... and they happen to make up the bulk of all purchases.
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:44 PM   #30
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Best selling GM vehicles...

1. Chevrolet Silverado @ 30,994 units sold.
2. Chevrolet Malibu @ 20,720 units sold.
3. Chevrolet Impala @ 14,451 units sold.
4. Chevrolet Equinox @ 11,490 units sold.
5. GMC Sierra @ 11,441 units sold
6. Chevrolet Traverse @ 11,371 units sold.
7. Chevrolet Cobalt @ 10,141 units sold.
8. Chevrolet Camaro @ 7,540 units sold.
9. Chevrolet Tahoe @ 6,809 units sold.
10. Chevrolet Express @ 6,535 units sold.

Camaro's pretty far from being top-selling.
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:46 PM   #31
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I'm holding out buying my Camaro until it comes with 0% financing. I really hope that happens before December when Synergy Green gets discontinued.
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:47 PM   #32
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Quite frankly if you think about, the Camaro has been doing fantastic in sales as there has really been no marketing for it all, unless you consider the Transformer movies. Analyze things okay, the new mustang has put up a deal of marketing in tv spots and magazine ads just to sell 8,900 units in June, that's just 1,400 more units than the Camaro which really has no marketing for it really. The 5th gen Camaro itself has become a pop icon within the past two years with just word of mouth and such not just with car enthusiasts and adults but children as well.

If you have child pick between a toy mustang or toy camaro they picked the Cam because of bumblebee. I know that Cam-heads are rolling their eyes cause of transformers and that's fine, but what that does is make the Camaro more apparent to the adults because of what their child likes or is interested in.

So in consideration on how little money that GM has put into marketing quite possibly their top selling vehicle, the amount of units that sold in comparison just under 1500 units from the Stang and also the huge amount of anticipation of the Z28 and convertible still to come with current sales still strong. The Camaro and GM has been a great success even with these sales, the true outlook and final comparison will probably be within 5 months of the new mustang sales to see how they slide or increase on both companies to determine a true pony car winner.
well considering how well the 2 Transformers movies did at the box office (GM "advertised" not only the Camaro, but youll see 90% of the Transformers who are also automobiles are all GM products) id say thats a hell of a commercial.

but its just GM's old formula again.

look at what Ford's doing and then try to 1 up it. its 1967 again (well technically the camaro debuted in 1966...as a 67 model). but regardless...theyre doing a throwback to the 60's just like Ford did. Almost everything Chevy did with the Camaro is a duplicate of Fords formula for success with the current Mustang. Like it was stated earlier...this is a brand new car with fresh/retro styling. its VERY eye catching and people like that. of course it will sell...its "the new thing". but nothing stays new forever.

i ask this...what do you guys honestly think GM can do to 1 up itself now? theres already talk of an interior refresh. So soon? the cars barely a year old. also, how well will this car hold up over time? ive had 3 brand new mustangs and have never had any warranty issues (including on my brand new 2005 GT that i beat the hell out of). will this new Camaro be able to make the same claim?
the looks are classic...after all it was patterned after the most beautiful camaro ever built (the first generations). but whats going to happen when people get tired of this style...when its "old" (which doesnt take long as we all know). i ask again...how will GM top this one? theyve got their work cut out for them.
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:49 PM   #33
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GM might actually have to spend some money marketing the car. I see the mustang commercial all the time.
It doesn't need a fancy commercial to help sales.

The Camaro sales it self. That's pretty much how it has been since it came out.

Yeah it's a couple of commercials, but the commercials it's in don't single out the Camaro they're about all of GM.
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I'm sure the Camaro marketing dept still got a healthy paycheck so I don't get the silence either.
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