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Old 07-01-2010, 05:10 PM   #35
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They really won't need to worry about one upping themselves for quite awhile. They have the convertible coming out in late 2010 I think and the Z28 a year later and they're just adding the slight options to the new years such as the Hurst shifted and HUD to name few. Besides they are already planning it in talks of the possible 6th gen going to a different platform to reduce weight and get better fuel economy. I really dont see this generation running as long as the 4th, I would hope to think that GM learned a lesson from the 3rd and 4th gens and not have a line drag for so long. GM has plenty of options that can run for another 5 years before moving to Gen-6.
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:18 PM   #36
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I never understood why GM puts no marketing money into the Camaro. IMO I still say the demise of the 4th gen came from no marketing. The 5th gen is a hit from all corners and has attracted people who never thought about a Camaro before but, I think Chevy can sell alot more if they did marketing. I never been a ford man but one thing I can say for them is that they spend money on mustang marketing and always have.
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:24 PM   #37
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Its interesting that ALL the car mags decided to compare the 2011 Mustang with the 2010 Camaro. Why didn't they wait to compare model years? Then they could have displayed the better HP numbers of the 2011 Camaro. (as well HUD...)
B/c aside from HUD on 2LT and 2SS there is no difference between 10's and 11's. The V6 didn't get a new engine, it just got certified. The V6 was always producing 312 @ the crank.
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:00 PM   #38
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I've seen 3 different Challenger commercials in the past couple of weeks.
Still no Camaro commercials.
I'm seeing 2010 V6 mustang's advertised locally for $15,000.
must-nag fans:"yeaaaah we win."
um yeah, you gave cars away.
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:15 PM   #39
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Well being every time I go somewhere people are pointing, waving, giving thumbs up towards the Camaro, I doubt they really need any advertizing yet...I can't count also how many times I have seen a small boy saying something to their mom or dad while pointing at our car... Also i know of at least 5 people telling me this week that the Camaro is going to be ther next car...
Advertizing? well owners do more advertizing just by driving these dream machines....
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:26 PM   #40
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Personally I like the Challenger commercial, the whole July 4th theme was pretty cool....
Agree, wish GM would market the Camaro a little more...
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Old 07-01-2010, 08:14 PM   #41
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GM's bread and butter has always been their trucks and SUVs. Face it, the Camaro is a niche car and they will keep making them as long as it is a profitable unit. Today's business model requires a demand and a shorter shelf life. If the demand for the Camaro starts to wane it won't be a hard decision to stop making them. I love all of the muscle cars but I can't buy a new one every year. Supply and demand. Keep cost low to keep profits high. I for one will be worried when GM has to saturate the airwaves with Camaro ads. Ford had to in order to reclaim some market share and refocus buyer's attention on their "new" product. If GM is forced to spend $ on Camaro marketing and it fails, then what? I do agree that Chevys website should be updated. Today's car buying public wants info now and are less likely to start their shopping in a dealership. They are online.
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Old 07-01-2010, 08:22 PM   #42
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nice and to think that 1 of those 2010 Camaro's was mine
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Old 07-01-2010, 08:44 PM   #43
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If Chrysler can afford to spend money on the 2-3,000 a month sales Challenger, i don't see why Chevrolet can't advertise Camaro. Again, they did almost the same thing with the 4th gen. Advertised when it came out, and then no more commercials for 9 years.
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:27 PM   #44
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If Chrysler can afford to spend money on the 2-3,000 a month sales Challenger, i don't see why Chevrolet can't advertise Camaro. Again, they did almost the same thing with the 4th gen. Advertised when it came out, and then no more commercials for 9 years.
Because Chrysler needs to advertise. There were 3179 more Camaros built than purchased. That means they are still selling well, especially with no rebates or anything on the old MY.

I'd rather they save their advertising dollars until they need to spend them. The exposure the Camaros are receiving still is pretty good for GM not spending any capital on advertising.

Edit: 1200 of the Camaros built were the old MY even.
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:38 PM   #45
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Bottom line is the mustang is barely beating the camaro while having commercials and major discounts. and the camaro has none of either...
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:46 PM   #46
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A few things to keep in mind.

#1. up until a few months ago people couldn't even get a camaro in some places so why waste money on excessive advertising.
#2. There are still 2010 mustangs sitting on lots with deep discounts.
#3. Just because the Mustang is selling a few more doesn't mean the end. Wait till next month and you'll see things level off.
#4. The Camaro doesn't have a Convertible or the Z28. Ford has a Vert (and 2010's with heavy discounts) and the GT500. People that buy convertibles are buying them now and they are getting good deals from Ford.
#5. Who cares that Ford sells more. Whats important is that GM is making a great product that people love and they are selling lots of them. The 2002 camaro sold only 32,000 camaros the 2010 did that in 4 months I don't think it's time to worry yet.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:07 PM   #47
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big deal, there are still a boatload of 'mundane-looking' mustangs on the road, new or old. And very few Camaros to be seen.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:16 PM   #48
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Incorrect, last month alone nearly 45% of Mustang sales were 2010 MY. It is typical of current MY offerings to last to the end of the Cal. Year. Just look back to last December - almost all the year-end sales were 2009MY closeout (GM's Red Tag did not even include 2010MY).

Certainly the majority were 2011's, but not the vast majority. Probably 1/3 still 2010 MY.
RPO, what did you expect from the Chally guy? Another troll spouting off mindless drivel with no factual data to back his claims
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:41 PM   #49
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So in consideration on how little money that GM has put into marketing.
transformers anyone? pretty sure they paid a nice chunk of monies so the camaro would be transformers? pretty sure they had to pay some good monies for that...
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Old 07-02-2010, 12:00 AM   #50
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GM might actually have to spend some money marketing the car. I see the mustang commercial all the time.
Marketing will help some but they really need to put some decent incentives on the car if they want to top the Mustang in sales. You can go out and buy a new '11 5.0 GT cheaper than an SS right now.
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Old 07-02-2010, 12:03 AM   #51
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Marketing will help some but they really need to put some decent incentives on the car if they want to top the Mustang in sales. You can go out and buy a new '11 5.0 GT cheaper than an SS right now.

Indeed.
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