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Old 07-12-2010, 09:31 PM   #251
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At the end of the day, this was essentially a review of the E63 AMG. Period. And then they chose a car to go up against it for fun. That is the only way to explain the lack of any real 'information' about the Camaro. Nothing about the interior at all. Nothing about the 0-60 times for the Camaro.

All that information was left for the Mercedes, you got to see the interior, you got the 0-60 time etc.

I won't ever be able to afford an E63 AMG, not that I want one, so I am more than happy to be behind the wheel of the car that is half the car that an E63 AMG is!
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:31 PM   #252
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Camaro against an AMG? You f*ing kidding me? That's a ridiculous comparison.
I know, it's like putting a GT500 against something like, say, a Corvette Z06!

Congrats to the 2010 Camaro with its IRS for kicking a three model-year old, solid axle GT500's but around the TG circuit by 3 hundredths of a second with 75 less horsepower at the crank!
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:47 PM   #253
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since ive watched every episode of top gear i was definitely expecting everything they were saying, im shocked they didnt hit the interior, because they do say a lot of things about the interior of cars... however, I do agree (dont shoot me) with the things hammond said... but the comparing didnt make much sense to me... however, in the end... the hamster did want the camaro and rightfully so
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:55 PM   #254
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:57 PM   #255
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:00 PM   #256
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The British are a bunch of jerks. They usually compare a like auto but a AMG and a Camaro. Then when the Camaro doesn't have the time to keep up with a car that is twice the cost is utter BS!

That was repeated with the Shelby 500KR last year with all the comparisons.

It is still fun to watch Top Gear but their comparison was.....shit!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:02 PM   #257
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:10 PM   #258
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:47 PM   #259
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i think big brother cts v might have something for that amg or at least the hennessy model!
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:53 PM   #260
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We're not talking about a straight line test here. With the same driver, the M6 will be faster than the A6 around the Top Gear track. That's a fact. Put the Stig behind the wheel of an M6 SS and the time would be faster. It has nothing to do with engine and everything to do with transmission when racing on a road course.
I know what we are talking about.. Just pointing out the posted specs and I still don't agree with you. I think the Auto is equal to the task even on a road course.. Bottom line
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:53 PM   #261
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It still ran a faster lap than a GT500 LOL
sorry, I feel weird defending the gt500...... but it had no brembos or Tuned suspension also it looks like the track was damp on it's run.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:06 PM   #262
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Why do you guys keep mentioning third party tuners to compare it to? AMG is Mercedes own in house "tuner"...there own performance division you could say.

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also it looks like the track was damp on it's run.
Top Gear and BBC can not control the weather. I dont see how people can not understand this. They have to stick to schedules, and if it is still wet at the last minute....oh well. They note the wet times as wet so you know to take that into consideration.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:15 PM   #263
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Here's proof that even The Stig likes the Camaro. Here he is just playing around on the test track in some behind the scenes prior to he Lap! Im sure he has permagrin. Here's a quote from the BBC Top Gear Site about this shot.

"But it's a doddle compared to Stig's blast in the Chevrolet Camaro. Get ready for all this, and more, in Episode 3 of Series 15, this Sunday at 8pm on BBC Two. Apparently there's some meaningless game of football on the other side at the same time."

So track tested and Stig Approved!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:21 PM   #264
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I......don't understand what the point of bringing the AMG into that show was...I can't complain about the review too much -- I laughed a few times. But I don't get the angle.

Did they want to downplay the performance of the Camaro by pitting it against something twice the price?

I always have to remember...these TopGear Episodes are hilarious...but I tend to laugh AT them...not with'em...(who drives a Fiesta and a Vette through a mall, really?!)
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:24 PM   #265
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BTW earlier you guys were mentioning that wow there is a 20k price increase. Well for now there is cause there not sold in the UK as of yet. Private dealers are shipping them over. Also the EU standards are suprisingly much higher than here in the States. So that means the Camaro has to go through so tweaking just to meet the minimum requirements. Suttle things too like if you look at the screen shot of my last post look closely at the Camaro badge on the right front fender. You'll see a turn signal indicator there. We here in the states appropriately call them EURO Lights.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:32 PM   #266
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If i could afford the Mercedes, I would buy a Z06.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:33 PM   #267
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Hopefully we'll see a longer review sometime soon. I love these guys, they do stupid stuff all the time (like a camaro vs an AMG) but they are entertaining. I think GM needs to add the "redneck button" for 2012 like the AMG had. Funny how the camaro stereo type translates overseas. Murders isn't quite the stereotype here, somehow mullets and wife beater t-shirts turn into murders across the Atlantic. Thanks for whomever got this posted up, we'll have to wait several months to catch this on BBC America.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:33 PM   #268
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Here-here!!!

Of course...don't drive and do that (^)
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Top gear is just brit bs! They didnt even like the ZR1!
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Old 07-13-2010, 01:25 AM   #270
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I......don't understand what the point of bringing the AMG into that show was...I can't complain about the review too much -- I laughed a few times. But I don't get the angle.

Did they want to downplay the performance of the Camaro by pitting it against something twice the price?

I always have to remember...these TopGear Episodes are hilarious...but I tend to laugh AT them...not with'em...(who drives a Fiesta and a Vette through a mall, really?!)
To be honest with you, I think they do these odd pairings just so they can get to drive as many cars as possible..lol. I'm seriously betting its time constraints. Besides, it worked in our favor. Instead of getting 5 minutes of praise for the car and five minutes negativity, We got 5 minutes of how good the Camaro is and 5 minutes on how the Mercedes is better. Trust me, thats alot better than them picking the car apart for 5 minutes.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:43 AM   #271
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I have been watching Top gear for a long time. I don't get upset because they bash certain cars. Its only entertainment. I bet if Fifth Gear reviews the Camaro, and the reviews are not perfect, there will be complaints too.

These are the cars own by the presenter of Top Gear. Hammond owns a couple of American cars. Clarkson owns a few Fords.

Richard Hammond's car collections:
Left-hand drive Porsche 911 Carrera 2s, 4 Land Rovers, a Suzuki GSXR1000, a BMW 1150 GS, a second Porsche 911, a Porsche 928, a Morgan V6 Roadster, a 1967 Ford Mustang GT390, Morgan Aeromax, Dodge Challenger SRT8 and an Opel Kadett.

Jeremy Clarkson's car collections:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X, Volvo 850 R (his wife called it the Terminator), Alfa Romeo 164, Ford Escort RS Cosworth, Ford GT, Ford Cortina, 1980s Alfa Romeo GTV6, Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, Ferrari F355, 2 VW Sciroccos, Jaguar XJR, BMW 3.0 CSL, BMW Z1, Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon, Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG, Aston Martin V8 Vantage (for his wife), Ford Focus, Mercedes-Benz 600, Land Rover Defender, Mercedes-Benz CLK-AMG Black Series, Volvo XC90[60], Caterham Seven R500 (for his wife), Range Rover TDV8 Vogue SE[61], Austin-Healey Sprite.
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I have been watching Top gear for a long time. I don't get upset because they bash certain cars. Its only entertainment. I bet if Fifth Gear reviews the Camaro, and the reviews are not perfect, there will be complaints too.

These are the cars own by the presenter of Top Gear. Hammond owns a couple of American cars. Clarkson owns a few Fords.

Richard Hammond's car collections:
Left-hand drive Porsche 911 Carrera 2s, 4 Land Rovers, a Suzuki GSXR1000, a BMW 1150 GS, a second Porsche 911, a Porsche 928, a Morgan V6 Roadster, a 1967 Ford Mustang GT390, Morgan Aeromax, Dodge Challenger SRT8 and an Opel Kadett.

Jeremy Clarkson's car collections:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X, Volvo 850 R (his wife called it the Terminator), Alfa Romeo 164, Ford Escort RS Cosworth, Ford GT, Ford Cortina, 1980s Alfa Romeo GTV6, Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, Ferrari F355, 2 VW Sciroccos, Jaguar XJR, BMW 3.0 CSL, BMW Z1, Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon, Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG, Aston Martin V8 Vantage (for his wife), Ford Focus, Mercedes-Benz 600, Land Rover Defender, Mercedes-Benz CLK-AMG Black Series, Volvo XC90[60], Caterham Seven R500 (for his wife), Range Rover TDV8 Vogue SE[61], Austin-Healey Sprite.
So neither of them have ever owned a GM product?
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The Camaro is stupid.

And this Maserati is "idiotic":


which they chose over the Panamera and the Rapide. See the pattern? Much a knickers in a bunch about nothing.
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:35 AM   #274
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Top gear is just brit bs! They didnt even like the ZR1!
Yes they did.
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Old 07-13-2010, 08:45 AM   #275
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When I was in Manchester 2 years ago i was out to dinner with a few of our Briitish customers and we were talking Top Gear. They were amazed that I was a fan and especially my love for Clarkson. They were quick to point out that he hates Americans and thinks we're all fat stupid red necks. I replied that's why I like him, because he's right.

This thread just re-enforces that stereotype.
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