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Old 10-06-2006, 06:37 PM   #1
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Import or not?

Ok, in my surfing of the net I have come across many threads that state “if the Camaro is assembled in Canada it is an import. Now as much as I am disappointed that the Camaro an “American Legend” by the way, is being built by beady eyed floppy head bastards (No offence to my Canadian brothers and sisters, South Park just cracks me up) I still do not consider the Camaro an import. So what do you all think?

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Old 10-07-2006, 10:50 AM   #2
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In my opinion, in today's world, few things are truly an import or not. Most everything either has some parts built outside the US and assembled here or parts from here and assembled elsewhere, or the company's headquarters is overseas while the factories are here, etc. The number of totally American items (cars or otherwise) seems to be slowly dwindling. (I do like watching John Ratzenberger's Made in Amerca, though. There are some companies that I never knew were American.) Anyone want to add their thoughts?
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:44 AM   #3
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So, Toyota is an import, right? But they have a plant here in SA, TX. So...does that make the Tundras rolling off the line right now domestics? Hey, they're built in the good old US. It's just a thought, but very true. I'd consider the Tundra an import (even though it's made here) and the Camaro a domestic (even though it's made in Canada). That's just weird...
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Old 10-07-2006, 01:27 PM   #4
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hmm good question. just don't say it's not made in america. b/c it is.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:04 PM   #5
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When the Camaro was reintroduced to the public last January I could not believe my eyes. I was speechless, dumbfounded, my eyes just glazed over and I started drooling. I have never wanted a vehicle so badly. Then the day came when they announced the “American Legend” would be built and it is going to built in Canada. WHA WHA WHAT! How in the hell can an “American Legend” be built in another country? My heart was ripped in two. Oh yeah, I have seem to have forgotten about the whole Globalization BS that has been going on for the past few years, my bad… I’m over it now, after many moths of counseling.

Here is a statement that makes me laugh, NASCAR fans screaming about NASCAR allowing Toyota into the Nextel Cup ”How could they let a import into a domestic sport”. Meanwhile the only car that is actually made in the US is the Toyota.

As for the term “Made in America” that could include any country from South to North America. Soon there is going to be “Made by the World” tags on everything… A little from here a little from there, blah blah blah.

As for my thoughts on the new Camaro being an import, no. Most likely more than half of the parts are going to be made in the U.S., ie engine/tranny ect. and that’s good enough for me. Furthermore, with all the Globalization that’s taking place don’t be surprised if most if not all domestics are made everywhere but the U.S. in the near future…
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even though the toyota is assembled here in the us most of the parts are from over there.
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even though the toyota is assembled here in the us most of the parts are from over there.
Not necessarily true. Most Tier 1 and 2 suppliers in the U.S. supply Toyota, Nissan, and all other foreign car manufacturers. Company X = one line GM door handles the line next to it door handles for Toyota. Globalization works both ways.

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I realize that but there are a lot of parts that are designed and subcontracted out to company X here in the states to manufacture.


but my big thing is saying the camaro is not an american product b/c it's made in canada is bogus. b/c even the 4th gens were made in canada. which is in north America. so it's still an american product. and why do people have a problem with that? oh well guess I see america as more then the US.
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I think it comes down to most people associate America to = U.S. not Canada, Mexico, and the countries that make up South America. I like to see what kind of answers Jay Leno would receive if that were a question on a segment of Jay Walking…
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Old 10-07-2006, 10:56 PM   #10
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all camaros and firebirds were built at st therese, canada. so its been an import from day 1? no chevrolet is an american company founded here, toyotas built here are owned by japanese company. it is still an american product
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this question really boils down to what people consider domestics and imports. b/c the way it's used the camaro is a domestic b/c it was designed and built in america (being North america not just the US). but the toyota that everyone is refering to that is built here in the states is an import b/c it was designed and owned by a jap company. . .

but if you are saying that the camaro is an import and those toyotas and nissans that are built here in the US are domestics then you can also say the BMW plant in Greenville, SC. is a domestic plant for the Z3 or 4 or whatever it is now.

but i look at it that domestics are designed for the US market by a US owned company. that doesn't mean they can't sale them in other countries. While an import maybe designed for the US market it's owned by a forgein company.

but with how each company owns parts of another (ie. GM owning part of isuzu look at their base model truck looks almost exactly like a colorado/canyon) can you really say there are true domestics and imports?
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This turned out to be a good topic. GM is domestic...period. If GM built the Camaro at the Holden plant (in Australia), I think the general public would still consider it to be a domestic. This is due to brand name. After all, we don't consider Toyota an import even though it's built right here in my hometown, as being a domestic. The Camaro being built in Canada is still domestic. Personally, I wish it would be built in the good old USA. But, I won't pass it up because it wasn't.
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I'm an arse. lol.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:15 PM   #14
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That's what I like about this forum, although I don't post much on it, I think most of the people on here are a bit more realistic than some other Camaro forums I've visited. I agree with most of you. We all want GM to build the best Camaro possible, and Oshawa is one of if not the most high quality plant in all of North America. The chasis will be engineered by Holden, it will be assembled in Canada, but it's going to have 100% American DNA. In the end, GM in Detroit, MI, gets our money. And we might as well be happy for that.

It should be the best Camaro ever built, so why not utilize the best resources GM has to offer? Should GM gamble on quality just to have it built in the States? I don't think so.

Just to point something out to ilovethez28, only the 4th gens were built at St. Therese (1993-2002), and some of the 3rd gens I think. Prior to that, they were built at Van Nuys, California.
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it is being IMPORTED but its still an american car. if toyota's re made in the states they arent imported here but they are still an import car because the companies they come from are out of country
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:08 AM   #16
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Since I'm Canadian I guess the Camaro would be domestic built car. But most cars here are built somewhere else are imports to to us. But I still think the Camaro is American. Designed by Americans by an American company.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:32 AM   #17
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its not an import noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! it will never be an import. its still an american muscle car
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I am with you all this car is not an import!! The powerhouse under the hood and going through the body is built here in the U.S.
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Who cares? Is it really that important??

Be glad the Camaro is BACK!!!!


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Did you consider the CF4 (4th gen) Camaro/Firebird an import?

Do you consider any other GM car made in Canada an import? Do you consider the recent GTO an import?

Think about it...
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all camaros and firebirds were built at st therese, canada. so its been an import from day 1? no chevrolet is an american company founded here, toyotas built here are owned by japanese company. it is still an american product
Only the 1993-2002 was built in Canada :p
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Did you consider the CF4 (4th gen) Camaro/Firebird an import?

Do you consider any other GM car made in Canada an import? Do you consider the recent GTO an import?

Think about it...

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I agree completely.... this is a pointless topic. Why does it matter? I would rather the next car that I buy be assembled in a factory that was awarded the highest initial quality in North America than worry about where it is being assembled. I hope this thread was just intended to spur conversation since this board has been kind of slow as of late and it is not a serious concern. If it really is a concern then point your fingers at the UAW not GM.
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I hope this thread was just intended to spur conversation since this board has been kind of slow as of late and it is not a serious concern. .
That is my feeling about the topic...I think it was just put out there as a point of discussion/thoughts and nothing more.
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Feisty bunch today aren’t we! This topic was posted to find out what most of your opinions are. As for the GTO, yes I consider it an import, it’s a re-badged Holden but I still like it… Oh and for the board being slow right now, find me a 5th generation Camaro board that is not! We need GM or someone to leak us some info to hold us over.
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