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Old 07-25-2007, 04:49 PM   #18
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this same guy also told me that the plan is to have 80% V8's and 20% V6's. the V6 option will be the same 3.6L that is in the CTS and he said all V8's that roll out next year will be the LS2, but to expect the LS3 the next year. (sigh a whole year longer )
That was kind of my thinking. It seems everytime a new vehicle or redesigned vehicle comes out we all want to be the first to get one, but they always seem to get better each year by upping performance, options, features and fixing little issues with the new stuff.

Great informative thread!
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:25 PM   #19
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Gunn Chevrolet
12602 IH 35 North
San Antonio, TX 78233
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http://www.gunnchevrolet.com/main/

I ran into the Executive Manager, Charley O'Daniel, for Gunn Chevrolet today. We had a short discussion about price gouging and he stated none of his salesmen were allowed to sell anything over MSRP. It was obvious he was agitated when we were talking about Ford and the rediculous markup of the GT500. Said that would never happen at his location. He also mentioned they just sold a Z06 for $200 under MSRP. This could very well be a good place to look into!
Hey TG, Have you ever herd of Henna or Covert Chevrolet? They are in austin. There is a Covert in Basdrop. Henna has great costumer service i plan on checking them out for my camaro, the guy there said he would let me special order one with out charging me a 'finders fee'
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:08 PM   #20
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Hey TG, Have you ever herd of Henna or Covert Chevrolet? They are in austin. There is a Covert in Basdrop. Henna has great costumer service i plan on checking them out for my camaro, the guy there said he would let me special order one with out charging me a 'finders fee'
Sounds like good news. I have heard of Covert. I believe they are off of IH 35. Find out if he's willing to sell it at MSRP or below. If he is, post up that dealers info! There should be no extra "finders fee" charge for any dealer....maybe a shipping fee....but NO finders fee. If anyone calls plugging in certain options into a computer and hitting a search button and then wants to charge you for that, I would never do business with them.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:41 AM   #21
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Chances are I will be living in Austin at 'The Release' so I will definitely be checking into these Austin and San Antonio dealerships if they will sell at MSRP.

If we grouped by state and sent 4 or 5 buyers there way I am sure they would like to thank us somehow for that.

Sooooo.... Tag, ChevyLee, Lets go down to Gunn Chevrolet together. See if we can't get a 3 for the price of 2 or something like that.
Alright, thats a little extreme, but if we do go in and all three say "We would like to order 3 Camaros. What deal will you give us."
Something good HAS to come from that.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:22 AM   #22
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Actally, let's make that Ancira Winton Chevrolet. Seriously. I bought 3 at $200 over cost and one for $100 over cost from them. If I called the service manager telling him I was coming back to buy a 5th, he'd be happy and surely give me a good deal. But, if I called saying I had 3 or 4 buyers, they could probably give us a really good deal...probably. So, we'd need everyone we could get. This sounds like a freaking GREAT idea!!! Could you imagine? All 4 or 5 of us place orders at the same time to take delivery at the same time?!?! I'd LOVE to make this happen! I'll even wait a little longer to make sure it COULD happen for all the members who wanted to order at the same time.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:18 AM   #23
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I DEFINITLY CUNCURR!!
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:19 PM   #24
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If it's cheaper to buy it down in TX and drive it back to the bay I will DEFINITELY be out there. Just gotta figure out pricing and/or how much the dealers will charge here. I would tow it back as to not put too many miles on it right off the bat though.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:22 AM   #25
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Shit Tag,
If we have Bay Area people talking about coming down to pick one up. We could get a good crowd. 10-15 people from a few states.

Does a dealer have a limit on how many they get? I have heard that before, but does the same apply if we are all special ordering them?

Can you imagine two big rig car haulers pulling in all loaded with special ordered Camaros just for the guys on this site. it would be nuts
We just made a car dealerships day.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:54 AM   #26
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I sent a message to a couple local dealers inquiring about their stance on dealer markup.

I've only heard back from one so far-

Bennett Chevrolet
6721 Black Horse Pike
Egg Harbor Township, NJ 08234

This was my response from them regarding Dealer Markup-

Thanks for your request in regards the 2009 Camaro. It is our policy to limit our pricing on "hot" products to the actual MSRP. We do have a small waiting list. $500.00 deposit required. Cars will be offered in order of Deposit.


So, I had to ask about that deposit (I know a lot of people don't think we should put down a deposit, but I had to ask). My followup eMail was this-

Thank you very much for the information.

I do have a couple questions now though.

1- Does this deposit hold whatever vehicle arrives on the lot? Or does it guarantee the ability to order to my own specifications? (I personally wish to order my Camaro.)

2- Is this deposit refundable if, when details are released, the buyer decides to wait a bit longer to purchase? Or, God forbid, they decide they are unhappy with the production model and don't wish to purchase at all?

Thank you again,



And, lastly, their response to that-

The deposit secures your place in the allocation process, The Camaro would be ordered to your specifications baring any factory restrictions. The deposit is 100% refundable, we will not hold you to the car if it’s not as expected.

Thanks again for your interest.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:25 PM   #27
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not bad. sounds like they are willing to work w/ the buyer.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:54 AM   #28
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I don't know how many of you guys on this forum live in, or around, Michigan, but I work at a Chevrolet dealer here, and we're committed to selling the Camaro at MSRP when it comes in.

Same story as you've heard before, you're buying a place in line, and the ability to order the car to your specifications, barring any factory restrictions.

Our deposit is a refundable $1000, which, obviously, goes toward the purchase price of the car.

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Old 08-28-2007, 04:34 PM   #29
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I spoke to the folks over at Chevrolet of Bellevue (Washington) and they told me that the Camaro would likely be MSRP, not over or under. They are not doing a waiting list at the moment, but when they do it will be $500 - $1000 deposit (non-refundable, I believe) that would go towards the cost of the car.

As TG and others are planning, I have two friends from Alaska coming down to buy theirs as well. We may get another good-sized group together in Western Washington and see if we can't work something out. This is the only Chevy dealer that I've spoken with as of yet, but I'm sure we'll have plenty of time to find the best one before we buy.

The dealership has recently moved to new owners, so I'm not sure of the name, but the number and address are correct:

Chevrolet Hummer of Bellevue
430 116th AVE NE
Bellevue, WA 98004
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And the first west coast dealer has been named. I'm glad WA has one. Now I just have to find one a bit south in CA.
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Before we start getting too far ahead of ourselves... has anyone actually ever heard of a dealership giving discounts based on quantity? I mean, other than fleet discounts for a business.

I think we'd have to find a dealership that was silly enough to believe they wouldn't be able to sell all of their Camaros without help from us.

I'll call my dealership this afternoon and see how silly they are.
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You're going to have trouble finding a dealership that is actually going to HAVE multiple units to sell (that aren't spoken for). For example, we're a platinum status dealership, and we have <B>two</B> 2008 Malibu allocations for the first shipment.

I'm not saying you won't be able to get volume discounts, I'm just saying you're not going to find a dealership where you can get 10 Camaros as soon as they come out.
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You're going to have trouble finding a dealership that is actually going to HAVE multiple units to sell (that aren't spoken for).
So this is going back to what has been discussed on multiple threads before about the importance of a waiting list. Do those two spots account for the special orders as well, or is that two for the lot and additional cars to cover all orders placed before the release date?
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The way it works is that every dealership gets a certain allotment of cars. A waiting list occurs when the dealership has more orders for these cars than it has allotments.

For example, our dealership has no waiting list to order a 2008 Corvette Z06, or C6, but the dealership down the street does. This is because our dealership has a larger allotment of cars than they do. Simple as pie.

So how does this relate to the Camaro? It basically means that if there is a waiting list, there will be no cars on the lot. The only exception would be if a dealership wanted a Camaro to "show", which was not for sale. Otherwise, until the waiting list is tapped out, there will be no Camaros on the lot.

Hope this clears things up.
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