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Old 08-03-2010, 05:30 PM   #18
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Old 08-03-2010, 05:58 PM   #19
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I just watch news at 5:00PM. Why did they say that Both GM and Ford are down 5% below what was expected? They seem to paint a picture that isn't as good.
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I just watch news at 5:00PM. Why did they say that Both GM and Ford are down 5% below what was expected? They seem to paint a picture that isn't as good.
People tend to take the speculation, that relies on the use of economical statistics of which refer to the past, of experts to be more than simply speculation. It provokes unneeded panic, which stems from man's want for the planning of virtually all aspects of matters that intervene in our lives.
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I just watch news at 5:00PM. Why did they say that Both GM and Ford are down 5% below what was expected? They seem to paint a picture that isn't as good.
Whats so difficult to understand? There was a prediction, and apparently it was 5% higher than the actual result.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:03 PM   #22
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I just watch news at 5:00PM. Why did they say that Both GM and Ford are down 5% below what was expected? They seem to paint a picture that isn't as good.
Market analysts always predict what sales figures will look like prior to their release. Apparently they were off with GM and Ford.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:08 PM   #23
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Whats so difficult to understand? There was a prediction, and apparently it was 5% higher than the actual result.
I get that. Geezz, sorry I asked. All I was saying that the news seemed to paint a picture that wasn't that great, and I was looking for some of your input.

I'm not a goof. I've been in business for over 25 years and fully understand market forecasts.
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For a bunch of sales charts, follow this link: http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...results-94302/

You can also LOL at Toyota's inability to sell full size trucks/SUVs.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:12 PM   #25
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I get that. Geezz, sorry I asked. All I was saying that the news seemed to paint a picture that wasn't that great, and I was looking for some of your input.

I'm not a goof. I've been in business for over 25 years and fully understand market forecasts.
Ah, well in that case ...

Some newsies don't exactly like the domestic automakers. So instead of reporting something that makes them look good, they'll say something that makes them look bad.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:14 PM   #26
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For a bunch of sales charts, follow this link: http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...results-94302/

You can also LOL at Toyota's inability to sell full size trucks/SUVs.
Toyota is admittedly good at sedans and everyday cars, but they do fail when it comes trucks/SUVs. But why do they split the Tacoma into 4x2 and 4x4, but leave the Tundra alone?
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Old 08-03-2010, 09:41 PM   #27
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Toyota is admittedly good at sedans and everyday cars, but they do fail when it comes trucks/SUVs. But why do they split the Tacoma into 4x2 and 4x4, but leave the Tundra alone?
Nobody's really good at full-sized trucks or SUV's like the big 3.
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Old 08-03-2010, 09:51 PM   #28
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Wow, GM dominated the July sales compared to other auto manufacturers.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:11 PM   #29
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Wow, GM dominated the July sales compared to other auto manufacturers.
They should. Count how many different models of car falls under the GM umbrella.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:18 PM   #31
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They should. Count how many different models of car falls under the GM umbrella.
Less than there used to be. Which makes me smile even bigger when I stop and think about it.

Reduction in brands, reduction in nameplates = higher focus on existing (important) brands, focused resource allocation, and overall better vehicle design

All of which makes for a healthier portfolio!

EDIT: All they need to do now is keep at it, and turn this kind of report (positive) into the 'norm'.
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:32 PM   #32
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From Automotive News, via "The Truth About Cars":

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/july-2010-sales-usa/

Market Trends for the Industry from True Car, by Manufacturer, 2010 MY:

http://www.truecar.com/truetrends/index.html

The final caveat: Throw enough incentive money at prospective buyers, and you'll BUY market share...that's how Mustang outsold Camaro, for instance.

Also, in January/10, GM had 20.9% of the total market, while July/10 saw them barely break 20%. Expect greater money on the hood, especially as IPO time approaches...
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From Automotive News, via "The Truth About Cars":

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/july-2010-sales-usa/

Market Trends for the Industry from True Car, by Manufacturer, 2010 MY:

http://www.truecar.com/truetrends/index.html

The final caveat: Throw enough incentive money at prospective buyers, and you'll BUY market share...that's how Mustang outsold Camaro, for instance.

Also, in January/10, GM had 20.9% of the total market, while July/10 saw them barely break 20%. Expect greater money on the hood, especially as IPO time approaches...
Wouldn't investors be more concerned about products and profitability than market share?
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:59 PM   #34
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This is because GM is putting out cars that look like 2010-2011 cars should. When I went car shopping in 2007, I was put off by the crap interiors, the "green" LED clocks and radios, the box like heavy feel of the cars, V8 engines that felt like V6s (Impala SS for example, a FWD V8 with 300hp drove like a truck) etc. Now they are designing cars that look like Acura, Infiniti, BMW etc outside and inside, and giving them power and electronics that everyone was paying other companies for. I'm telling you it wasn't the "quality", it was for me at least, the boring showrooms of the 2000's that sent people to other brands. Same for Ford, the new Taurus looks like it can compete with a 5-series and hauls at 365hp in the SHO, the Mustang woke up and got 400hp like everyone else, and Jeep put out SRT8s and other cool cars.
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