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Old 08-17-2010, 08:04 AM   #51
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The Mustang has a really nice pair of made in America billet cans. The LS series of engines have oiling issues on road courses with drivers that pull high G steady state turns. Oil collects up on top of the engine and starves the rest. If you don't cause engine failure from oil starvation, you suck in substantial amounts of oil into the cylinders creating other issues. That is why SCCA T1 Vettes are now allowed to dry sump.

Back to the catch cans. We would fill the smaller Made in the USA catch cans to fast so we went with an import brand that makes a larger can -- Greddy.



Witt Buick in Muskegon did the installation. They installed a drain in the bottom and a hose so we can open a valve and empty the can track side with ease.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:47 AM   #52
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that's awesome... I can't wait to read the article.
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Old 08-17-2010, 10:11 AM   #53
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There is more information and a poll posted over here http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100421
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I didn't have time to read the whole thread..... yes I did

.... so... which car won?
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:23 AM   #55
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I didn't have time to read the whole thread..... yes I did

.... so... which car won?
They are both red with black accents. They went by so fast I couldn't tell.
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:51 PM   #56
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Wasn't it the red one that won?
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:55 PM   #57
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Wasn't it the red one that won?
There is a security leak. Who told you You are spot on. The RED one with the BLACK accents was the fastest.
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Old 08-17-2010, 02:43 PM   #58
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The Mustang has a really nice pair of made in America billet cans. The LS series of engines have oiling issues on road courses with drivers that pull high G steady state turns. Oil collects up on top of the engine and starves the rest. If you don't cause engine failure from oil starvation, you suck in substantial amounts of oil into the cylinders creating other issues. That is why SCCA T1 Vettes are now allowed to dry sump.

Back to the catch cans. We would fill the smaller Made in the USA catch cans to fast so we went with an import brand that makes a larger can -- Greddy.



Witt Buick in Muskegon did the installation. They installed a drain in the bottom and a hose so we can open a valve and empty the can track side with ease.
I had oil issues on my LS1 and it wasn't even CLOSE to the kind of driving you guys are doing and down almost 200 RWHP. I'm a believer in those! I had a catch can and two oil seperators because I'd still get a fair amount of oil in the intake. After the seperators, I could see hardly any oil was getting by and all of my detonation/knock retard went bye-bye. Before those mods', I'd have to run 100 octane to keep from pinging... It looks like I'll have to do this again That's a great looking set-up
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But seriously folks... I look forward to the full read, be sure and keep us updated, Pete
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:49 PM   #60
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Here is an update on the Theoretical Lap Times for both the Mustang and Camaro. We use our data logging software to cut and paste the best parts of every lap we ran for each car. This does two things. First, it is a measure of driver consistency. The closer the drivers Best Lap to the Theoretical Lap the more consistent the driver is. To be withing a second is good, under a second is better and under a half a second is beyond good. Second, this is a measure of the car and particularly the suspension. To be able to be consistent the car must be consistent. All a driver can ask of a car is to be stable and predictable. If the car delivers stability and predictability the driver knows what to do on every inch of the track. A really good car paired with a really good driver will deliver consistently good results. One is a measure of the other.

In the Camaro John was 3/10ths of a second slower in his Actual Lap Time compared to the Theoretical Best Lap Time.
In the Mustang John was 3/100ths of a second off in his Actual Lap Time compared to the Theoretical Best Lap Time.

This is another way of saying the same thing. Our DRIVER and our CARS were almost PERFECT.

John and the Mustang WERE perfect to be 3/100ths of a second apart in Actual vs. Theoretical Lap Times.

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Here is an update on the Theoretical Lap Times for both the Mustang and Camaro. We use our data logging software to cut and paste the best parts of every lap we ran for each car. This does two things. First, it is a measure of driver consistency. The closer the drivers Best Lap to the Theoretical Lap the more consistent the driver is. To be withing a second is good, under a second is better and under a half a second is beyond good. Second, this is a measure of the car and particularly the suspension. To be able to be consistent the car must be consistent. All a driver can ask of a car is to be stable and predictable. If the car delivers stability and predictability the driver knows what to do on every inch of the track. A really good car paired with a really good driver will deliver consistently good results. One is a measure of the other.

In the Camaro John was 3/10ths of a second slower in his Actual Lap Time compared to the Theoretical Best Lap Time.
In the Mustang John was 3/100ths of a second off in his Actual Lap Time compared to the Theoretical Best Lap Time.

This is another way of saying the same thing. Our DRIVER and our CARS were almost PERFECT.

John and the Mustang WERE perfect to be 3/100ths of a second apart in Actual vs. Theoretical Lap Times.

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Old 08-20-2010, 11:29 PM   #63
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:08 PM   #64
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Pedders Camaro Track Video with Data


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Is it just me, or does it seem one car seems to drive a little smoother than the other?...

Are you going to release a version of the SS runs like you did this current GT video?

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Is it just me, or does it seem one car seems to drive a little smoother than the other?...

Are you going to release a version of the SS runs like you did this current GT video?

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Which one did you feel drove smoother?

Yes we will do a cross cut version for the Camaro ass well as a data overlay version of the Mustang.
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Which one did you feel drove smoother?

Yes we will do a cross cut version for the Camaro ass well as a data overlay version of the Mustang.
It looked and sounded like SS was able to put the power down smoother; that may just be my bias, though

SWEET!!! I'm looking forward to those, too
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