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Old 08-31-2010, 10:04 PM   #35
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Some of them yeah...but not all IMO.

The 1990-1992 350tpi cars (1990 was still an iroc) could run as low as 13.9-14.0 in stock form and trapped as high as 98-99.

It would spank every 305 iroc no doubt. The 350 tpi in the 86-89 cars had a little less horsepower and would be about equal with the new 6. But I would think the 90-92 had an edge.
I have read all the arguing back and forth... I have a 89 IROC 350 tpi and it seems pretty slow. Maybe I am jsut used to the SS. We had the car since new and it used to seem much faster! I do have a hard time believing it will run with the V6 though... just saying.

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I mean one of those new 350Z not 2003 model or something old u happy u can beat it. didn't mean the 370Z
370 took the place of the 350 a couple years ago. The 370 is pretty fast. My friend has one, it would roast the V6 Camaro, youre right.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:09 PM   #36
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I think its time for you to sell your LT man lol...maybe get a ZR1 this way you're king on the road or on the track
Why would i sell my car?

I am talking about the V6 camaro in general, people happy it have 304 HP thinking it fast while its not
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Why would i sell my car?

I am talking about the V6 camaro in general, people happy it have 304 HP thinking it fast while its not
FWIW, the v6 Camaro actually has 312hp @ 6500rpm and 278 ft/lb torq. @ 5100rpm..could be a little off on the rpm's but in any case, thats what it is.
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Comparing cars based on the engine alone is pretty misguided. The V6 Camaro is faster than a V8 Mercury Grand Marquis. Meanwhile, a 4 cylinder Cobalt SS is quicker than both of them. Engine configurations by themselves don't dictate performance. No single specification does.

The fairest comparison would be between cars of near equal price. In which case, the V6 Camaro actually competes against a lot of 4 cylinder cars, while the SS is priced against V6 cars. Additionally, the Camaro isn't about all out performance. Its affordable performance. And 300+ hp, 0-60 in around 6s, and 1/4 in the low 14s range is pretty good. Especially when you figure that you can get that for under $25k US. Its an extremely short list of cars that can do that. So sure, there are plenty of rides that are faster. But few are faster for less cash. And none will turn as many heads as the Camaro.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:20 AM   #39
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I think you answered your own question...Yes the V6 is closer to the back of the pack in the 1/4 mile time. in this particular car it wasn't designed to be a 1/4 mile record breaker, It was for those who couldn't afford/didn't want a v8 but still wanted the awesome lines on this car. As you stated, there will always be something faster V6 or V8. If you just want to complain about how "slow" the V6 is when compared to other V6's then why did you buy it in the first place. Either way...enjoy your car or get something that you can enjoy.
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How about we move this topic back to the original topic.....

Actually I don't care where this thread goes but I had to add my .02.

To the OP....what a whiner!! I have seen absolutely no pride in any of your posts and instead just like to talk about how slow you think it is, or how it can't beat anything, or you seem to almost want to make fun of other V6 owners who think their car is "fast".

Do you even like your car? Are you happy to be an owner? Can you sleep at night knowing that there are other cars out there in the same "class" that can beat it? Your comparing your car to the 370z and infinite cars...which are NOT in the same price point. You could strap on a turbo, have nearly 400 horses at the crank and still be under the price point of these cars.

By the way, since you like to go by Magazine results, you do know that motortrend recently got a 5.4 0- 60 time out of the synergy green manual car. Is 5.4 slow??? I mean lets get serious here.

These are ALL quick cars! Camaro's main fault is its weight....drop it down to mustang weight and you'd be looking at as quick or quicker times, but we all know that isn't likely until the next major update in 2014 or 2015.

All I have to say is, take some pride in your ride, or sell it and get a car that you feel is faster (when only a few more years down the road it will be "SLOW" compared to the newer competition)
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Its faster than a 1989 Dodge Omni.

There..it is faster than something.
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doesn't matter what you drive(6 vs 8), unless you track it often. Last time I checked the speed limit hasn't changed(much). Car design FTW. And if you think smaller powerplants can't put out, take a spin in a GTR...

Curious, how many tuners get asked, "is it a modded 4 or a 6 banger?"

maybe the OP is going through the 'shoulda bought a V8' saga:(
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This thread is cracking me up... Most owners of these cars (V6 or V8) don't race them at the track... If someone does race it, then they most probably have modified if to meet their racing needs...

I really have to LOL at the posters who think the V6 should be the fastest car on the planet for 23K....

Like I said, this thread is really making me laugh.... Thanks!!!!
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I doubt you had the same firehawk as the one I showed in the link...unless you paid over 40k for it in the early 90's. If you had that car you would of known it. It was 350 hp and 390 tq at 34xx lbs. Thats no 14 second car my friend. Thats a 12 second car with traction.

They switched to a speed density system in 1990 and got more power. 245hp and 345 tq was the rating from then on.

You are not showing the stats from a 1990-1992 car and or they are incorrect. (as far as hp/tq....15.2 could happen...a 16 could happen...its driver/conditions)

http://www.thirdgen.org/1992-chevy-camaro
245hp/345tq

Some more tests and specs

http://www.prophetsofmadness.com/iro...magarticle.htm
(245 hp/345tq...97.7 trap speed. decent 14.7)

http://www.prophetsofmadness.com/iro...endofanera.htm
(14.4 @ 97.8 mph) 245hp/345 tq

Enough proof of the 14.4 and ~98 mph trap speed like I said in the first place?

I guess that was the best run of all time for the car. First time in history it has happened. But that was the best run ever right their. They must have been at Perfect DA in 50 degree weather with the wind behind them and a factory ringer (and with Evan Smiths dad BTW)...they could never have gone any faster than 14.4.

Ive hijacked this thread enough...Im out.
Thanks for calling me a lair on not owning the firehawk. I know the car very well thank you and have owned it for six years. It never ran for me anyhow what it was suppose to, that's why I sold it. As far as the spec I produce being wrong ,they are not. They are for a 1992 trans am not a Camaro. Camaro did have 245Hp in 1992. Look back at the very link you posted to the thirdgen and you will see what I'm taking about. That fact remains that no TPI ,other than the firehawk, which is slp, which means it's not solely stock,could ever run a 13.9. Your 5hp gain in the 1992 camaro over the trans am isn't going to get you a 1.3 sec quicker the 1/4mile.
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Why would i sell my car?

I am talking about the V6 camaro in general, people happy it have 304 HP thinking it fast while its not
Wonders if he really even has a Camaro....

Ummmmm It's 312 hp cupcake...
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Wonders if he really even has a Camaro....

Ummmmm It's 312 hp cupcake...
To be fair it hasnt been massively displayed or such as being 312 HP.

Most people saw the "304 HP" from the original ads and still are thinking that is true. GM quietly announced it re-rated the engine at 312HP.
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To be fair it hasnt been massively displayed or such as being 312 HP.

Most people saw the "304 HP" from the original ads and still are thinking that is true. GM quietly announced it re-rated the engine at 312HP.
It doesn't matter one way or the other. Its just as fast with the official 312 as it was with the unofficial 304.
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