Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Hines Performance (HPE)
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > Chevy Camaro vs...

Chevy Camaro vs... Comparison of Chevy Camaro versus its competition. *NO STREET RACING STORIES*

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-01-2010, 03:07 PM   #51
DGthe3
Moderator.ca
 
DGthe3's Avatar
 
Drives: 05 Grand Am GT
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Niagara, Canada
Posts: 22,036
Send a message via MSN to DGthe3
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperTomcat View Post
To be fair it hasnt been massively displayed or such as being 312 HP.

Most people saw the "304 HP" from the original ads and still are thinking that is true. GM quietly announced it re-rated the engine at 312HP.
It doesn't matter one way or the other. Its just as fast with the official 312 as it was with the unofficial 304.
__________________
Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them
__________________
don't believe a thing you read about the next gen Camaro -- as history has proven time and time again:

WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT FUTURE PRODUCT PLANS PERIOD FbodFather
__________________

Camaro5 Fest sub-forum
DGthe3 is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 03:08 PM   #52
REEFBLUE93
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 1993 Rustang
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 943
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2010SLVRBULIT View Post
doesn't matter what you drive(6 vs 8), unless you track it often. Last time I checked the speed limit hasn't changed(much). Car design FTW. And if you think smaller powerplants can't put out, take a spin in a GTR...

Curious, how many tuners get asked, "is it a modded 4 or a 6 banger?"

maybe the OP is going through the 'shoulda bought a V8' saga:(
I don't know what type enjoyment you derive from driving your car but there is a HUGE difference between driving a V8 and a V6 car that's n/a. The GTR isn't n/a so that's a moot point. The difference I'm speaking of has nothing to do with breaking the speed limit either. It's all about how the car responds and how it sounds....
REEFBLUE93 is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 03:09 PM   #53
xLoGiK1
 
xLoGiK1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT/RS Camaro
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 737
Seriously who cares? Just be fortunate enough and be happy with what you drive. Other people aren't so fortunate. You have a nice car. I see people every day that drive old beat up cars living pay check to pay check. Appreciate life.
xLoGiK1 is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 03:13 PM   #54
REEFBLUE93
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 1993 Rustang
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 943
Quote:
Originally Posted by xLoGiK1 View Post
Seriously who cares? Just be fortunate enough and be happy with what you drive. Other people aren't so fortunate. You have a nice car. I see people every day that drive old beat up cars living pay check to pay check. Appreciate life.
^^ Yup! That's really what matters. There are quite a few people driving around in new cara and living check to check as well
REEFBLUE93 is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 03:13 PM   #55
Dyk-NO

 
Drives: 2010 Camaro LS M6
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Anchorage,Alaska
Posts: 911
A 300hp v6 is no joke and they're right about there's always something faster out there. That's why you have to mod it if you want to of course and you won't be racing Everyday you drive anyways
__________________
"From ZERO to a Tire-Burning HERO!"


Dyk-NO is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 03:14 PM   #56
xLoGiK1
 
xLoGiK1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT/RS Camaro
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 737
Quote:
Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93 View Post
^^ Yup! That's really what matters. There are quite a few people driving around in new cara and living check to check as well

Yeah I know, lol. But those are the type of people that live beyond their standards.
xLoGiK1 is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 04:10 PM   #57
raqball
The little LS that could
 
raqball's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro LS
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Central USA
Posts: 639
Quote:
Originally Posted by xLoGiK1 View Post
Seriously who cares? Just be fortunate enough and be happy with what you drive. Other people aren't so fortunate. You have a nice car. I see people every day that drive old beat up cars living pay check to pay check. Appreciate life.
Best post of the entire thread!!!!!
__________________
---TSW Donington's 20x8.5 front & 20x10 rear
---InJen CAI
---Magnaflow Exhaust with X pipe
---Bel RX45 with laser shifters
---4 gauge cluster pack
---VIO 1.5 in car camera system with DVR
---CoStar / BlueStar
---MPD Spolier (awaiting delivery)
---Taillight lenses, bezels, side markers, and reverse lights all blacked out
raqball is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 04:16 PM   #58
ViperTomcat
Banned
 
Drives: 2011 Avenger Heat
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,702
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGthe3 View Post
It doesn't matter one way or the other. Its just as fast with the official 312 as it was with the unofficial 304.
I was referring to the reply calling him out on the 304 vs 312 number, not arguing anything else.
ViperTomcat is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 04:19 PM   #59
christianmotox


 
christianmotox's Avatar
 
Drives: ( . )( . )
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,733
Quote:
Originally Posted by xLoGiK1 View Post
Seriously who cares? Just be fortunate enough and be happy with what you drive. Other people aren't so fortunate. You have a nice car. I see people every day that drive old beat up cars living pay check to pay check. Appreciate life.
Good deal.
christianmotox is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 04:52 PM   #60
SIXJAK


 
SIXJAK's Avatar
 
Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Branson MO
Posts: 2,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1 View Post
I doubt you had the same firehawk as the one I showed in the link...unless you paid over 40k for it in the early 90's. If you had that car you would of known it. It was 350 hp and 390 tq at 34xx lbs. Thats no 14 second car my friend. Thats a 12 second car with traction.

They switched to a speed density system in 1990 and got more power. 245hp and 345 tq was the rating from then on.

You are not showing the stats from a 1990-1992 car and or they are incorrect. (as far as hp/tq....15.2 could happen...a 16 could happen...its driver/conditions)

http://www.thirdgen.org/1992-chevy-camaro
245hp/345tq

Some more tests and specs

http://www.prophetsofmadness.com/iro...magarticle.htm
(245 hp/345tq...97.7 trap speed. decent 14.7)

http://www.prophetsofmadness.com/iro...endofanera.htm
(14.4 @ 97.8 mph) 245hp/345 tq

Enough proof of the 14.4 and ~98 mph trap speed like I said in the first place?

I guess that was the best run of all time for the car. First time in history it has happened. But that was the best run ever right their. They must have been at Perfect DA in 50 degree weather with the wind behind them and a factory ringer (and with Evan Smiths dad BTW)...they could never have gone any faster than 14.4.

Ive hijacked this thread enough...Im out.
FWIW I ran high 14's about a month and a half ago in total garbage weather. 93% humidity 83 F with an embarrassing reaction time of 1.1 1.3 secs My best times were a 14.71 94mph and 14.96 93.6mph My 14.7 corrected to a 14.006 and 99.97mph. My car was running on 87 octane and was bone stock. With a good driver and hero conditions I don't think a low 14 or high 13 hero time is out of the question.
__________________
IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.
SIXJAK is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 04:58 PM   #61
alrox
 
Drives: corvette
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: usa
Posts: 374
Quote:
Originally Posted by SIXJAK View Post
FWIW I ran high 14's about a month and a half ago in total garbage weather. 93% humidity 83 F with an embarrassing reaction time of 1.1 1.3 secs My best times were a 14.71 94mph and 14.96 93.6mph My 14.7 corrected to a 14.006 and 99.97mph. My car was running on 87 octane and was bone stock. With a good driver and hero conditions I don't think a low 14 or high 13 hero time is out of the question.
He wasn't talking about your car. This is about 20 year old cars.
alrox is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 05:29 PM   #62
SIXJAK


 
SIXJAK's Avatar
 
Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Branson MO
Posts: 2,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by alrox View Post
He wasn't talking about your car. This is about 20 year old cars.
I get that but I'm trying to illustrate the new V6 isn't a bad option. The OP seems really unhappy about his purchase. I love my 2LT. I love the way it handles (better than an SS) I love the sound and if I can catch a GT or SS napping they won't be catching me as quickly as they'd hope to. You 2 are arguing over times of yore. Those old v8 didn't produce as much HP but they were superior in torque and much lighter to boot. I'm not into fantasy stats and fairytales but I don't think high 13's out of that stuff in ideal conditions is completely out of the question either.
__________________
IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.
SIXJAK is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 05:37 PM   #63
alrox
 
Drives: corvette
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: usa
Posts: 374
Quote:
Originally Posted by SIXJAK View Post
You 2 are arguing over times of yore.
There was no argument. He was simply wrong from the beginning without question.
alrox is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 05:54 PM   #64
KMPrenger


 
KMPrenger's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 ABM LT/RS, 06 Chevy Colorado
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Posts: 9,363
Quote:
Originally Posted by SIXJAK View Post
I get that but I'm trying to illustrate the new V6 isn't a bad option. The OP seems really unhappy about his purchase. I love my 2LT. I love the way it handles (better than an SS) I love the sound and if I can catch a GT or SS napping they won't be catching me as quickly as they'd hope to. You 2 are arguing over times of yore. Those old v8 didn't produce as much HP but they were superior in torque and much lighter to boot. I'm not into fantasy stats and fairytales but I don't think high 13's out of that stuff in ideal conditions is completely out of the question either.
Hey SixJak...I was down in branson this past weekend until tuesday...but can't say I saw you driving around lol. Girlfriend and I decided to take a little mini vacation down there....but she would have been UNHAPPY if I had taken up much of that time doin "camaro stuff" lol

I wish we had a track up around here in Mid Mo.
__________________
IPF Tune, Custom Magnaflow Exhaust, Vararam intake, MACE Ported Manifold, RX Ported TB, "Black Ice" manifold insulator, Elite Catch Can, ZL1 repro wheels, ZL1 Springs, DRL Harness, Front GM GFX, Heritage grill, Street Scene lower grill, NLP Spoiler, ZL1 rockers and much more!
KMPrenger is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 06:06 PM   #65
SIXJAK


 
SIXJAK's Avatar
 
Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Branson MO
Posts: 2,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by KMPrenger View Post
Hey SixJak...I was down in branson this past weekend until tuesday...but can't say I saw you driving around lol. Girlfriend and I decided to take a little mini vacation down there....but she would have been UNHAPPY if I had taken up much of that time doin "camaro stuff" lol

I wish we had a track up around here in Mid Mo.
Well you could have driven down the strip between 8pm -10:30pm and saw all SIX Camaros sitting out front of the Hughes Bros Theatre during showtime. LOL If ur ever down here again lemeknow. I'll get you tix to the show if you want.
__________________
IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.
SIXJAK is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 06:07 PM   #66
SIXJAK


 
SIXJAK's Avatar
 
Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Branson MO
Posts: 2,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by alrox View Post
There was no argument. He was simply wrong from the beginning without question.
LOL
__________________
IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.
SIXJAK is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 06:09 PM   #67
DevilKnightFalcon

 
DevilKnightFalcon's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,406
Send a message via AIM to DevilKnightFalcon Send a message via Yahoo to DevilKnightFalcon
V6 Challenger - We both agree the Camaro is faster

Hyundai's 2010 Genesis is faster - Agreed it is faster however the V6 version also starts at about $2,000 more than the 1LS Camaro.

350Z is faster - Not a fair comparison given that the 350Z sold at a base price of about $35k without options. For that price you could have an SS with mods that would destroy it. Oh and the 350Z isn't even sold anymore and the 370Z is even more expensive.

any infiniti V6 car is faster - The least expensive Infinity coupe is the G37 which starts at $36,000. Again for that price you could have a modded SS or a turbo charged V6 Camaro that would absolute annihilate it.

Altima coupe is faster too i guess - The Altima V6 coupe starts at $27,000 ($5k more than the Camaro). They both do 0-60 in about 6 seconds. The Altima does weight quite a bit less however it also has less horsepower at just 270. It's close here but i'd be willing to bet the Camaro wins, especially if you modded a 1LS to equal the V6 Altima price.

the new 2011 V6 mustang is faster - I think this really comes down to a drivers race for the most part. I have driven a 2011 V6 Mustang and felt the engine to be really lacking. With that said the Camaro is better looking, and feels like a much more expensive car. The V6 Mustang feels cheap. Keep in mind that the V6 Camaro came out last year and made a laughing stock of Ford which is why they had to redo their engines for 2011 which had not really been changed since like 2005. It would be foolish to think GM would redo the engine on a car that's only a year old.


The real funny thing is you are completely contradicting yourself. You are saying that it's stupid to compare the Camaro beating any V6 that isn't a 2011 but then you feel it is fair to compare it to the V6 in expensive luxury cars like Infiniti. All V6 engines are not created equal. The bottom line is that for a starting price of $22,000 the V6 Camaro is absolutely a fast car. No one ever claimed it was the fastest car on the market.

Btw if your anger stems from constantly being beaten in races....maybe you're just a crappy driver. Have a nice day
__________________

MBRP Catback/Magnaflow Resonated X/Airraid V2 CAI/Dash ABL/Interior LEDs/Custom Paint/Jet Coated American Racing LT Headers/High Flow cats/Trifecta Tune

Last edited by DevilKnightFalcon; 09-01-2010 at 06:24 PM.
DevilKnightFalcon is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 06:25 PM   #68
nachocheese
 
nachocheese's Avatar
 
Drives: 1LT RS, SIM
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 288
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroFreako View Post
Why would i sell my car?

I am talking about the V6 camaro in general, people happy it have 304 HP thinking it fast while its not
Why sell your car? Seems like you are having a pity party cause you don't like the toy you bought. You want to make the point that your car is all show and not fast at all. So I am assuming you don't like that aspect of your car. Telling you to go buy something else is a logical response. Better to spend the money than to make yourself miserable by obsessing about your car's shortcomings.
__________________
1LT/RS, A6
Airaid V2, Flowmaster AT axle back
Blackout bowties, switchblade silver interior panels, 4-pack gauges, leather steering wheel and shifter
nachocheese is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 07:38 PM   #69
ketel0ne

 
Drives: Used to have 2010 SGM
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Charles Town, WV
Posts: 1,317
My V6 is better than all the cars listed, because it is Synergy Green.
ketel0ne is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 07:43 PM   #70
olivdav
 
olivdav's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT/RS
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 52
The question is not who has the fastest car, it is do you enjoy your car? If you bought the car to race, then do what you need to do to make it faster. I bought mine because I have always wanted one, they are sweet looking and I am old enough to afford it, yet young enought to still know how to drive it. I am not planning on putting it on a track, just cruise around with my favorite seat cover (Wife) next to me. People pull up next to me ready to race, I just smile at them rev the engine a little and do a normal pull away from the light as I would all the time laughing at the idiots as they waste tire tread trying to show me who has a bigger pecker...kid games. I love my manual V6, I know I can pass on a two lane highway with no trouble at all and the car is pretty!
__________________
olivdav is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 07:44 PM   #71
2010SLVRBULIT


 
2010SLVRBULIT's Avatar
 
Drives: G5 & C6
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: MARS
Posts: 6,932
Quote:
Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93 View Post
I don't know what type enjoyment you derive from driving your car but there is a HUGE difference between driving a V8 and a V6 car that's n/a. The GTR isn't n/a so that's a moot point. The difference I'm speaking of has nothing to do with breaking the speed limit either. It's all about how the car responds and how it sounds....
neither is a boosted V8 vs a V6(n/a or not). get the car you want, if you don't like it get something else. Some people get the Camaro for the looks, regardless of engine size. But you wouldn't know that, huh.

..and tell me how the car responds, up to the speed limit.
2010SLVRBULIT is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 07:51 PM   #72
2010SLVRBULIT


 
2010SLVRBULIT's Avatar
 
Drives: G5 & C6
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: MARS
Posts: 6,932
Quote:
Originally Posted by olivdav View Post
The question is not who has the fastest car, it is do you enjoy your car? If you bought the car to race, then do what you need to do to make it faster. I bought mine because I have always wanted one, they are sweet looking and I am old enough to afford it, yet young enought to still know how to drive it. I am not planning on putting it on a track, just cruise around with my favorite seat cover (Wife) next to me. People pull up next to me ready to race, I just smile at them rev the engine a little and do a normal pull away from the light as I would all the time laughing at the idiots as they waste tire tread trying to show me who has a bigger pecker...kid games. I love my manual V6, I know I can pass on a two lane highway with no trouble at all and the car is pretty!
nice, painted or vinyl?
2010SLVRBULIT is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 07:56 PM   #73
olivdav
 
olivdav's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT/RS
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 52
Vinyl, dealer installed
__________________
olivdav is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 08:22 PM   #74
DevilKnightFalcon

 
DevilKnightFalcon's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,406
Send a message via AIM to DevilKnightFalcon Send a message via Yahoo to DevilKnightFalcon
Quote:
Originally Posted by olivdav View Post
Vinyl, dealer installed
Looks good
__________________

MBRP Catback/Magnaflow Resonated X/Airraid V2 CAI/Dash ABL/Interior LEDs/Custom Paint/Jet Coated American Racing LT Headers/High Flow cats/Trifecta Tune
DevilKnightFalcon is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 08:27 PM   #75
chuckstacamaro
 
chuckstacamaro's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS/RS BRM Purchase 03/19/2014
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 326
The V6 is faster and quicker than many of the original 60's to 80's muscle cars' My LS is as quick as my 67 GTO was stock with a 400 engine and is much quicker than my 68 Camaro SS 350 when stock.
chuckstacamaro is offline  
 
Closed Thread

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Looking for feedback from V6 owners Dare 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 171 10-22-2011 09:22 PM
Solo Performance V6 Mach-XL (Manual) and Mach-XLT (Auto) Exhaust Kits GOINGSOLO2 V6 Bolt-Ons & Tunes 13 07-13-2010 01:28 PM
Another V6 Oil Question ToyotaCamaro Mechanical Maintenance: Break-in / Oil & Fluids / Servicing 11 06-27-2010 09:51 PM
How can I make my v6 Camaro faster (0-60) alnajjd Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 79 11-23-2009 04:50 PM
4th Gen. Z28 to 5th Gen. V6 tryan2422 Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 27 11-11-2009 08:20 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.