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Old 09-09-2010, 09:56 AM   #1
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FSU VS. OU, Who Wins?

FSU Wins! OU's secondary will be lite-up!!!


Below, is a OU history lesson for PQ, and anyother "Sooner"!!


A Timeline of Oklahoma Cheating

1889: The Land Run
Territories in Oklahoma were opened for settlement at high noon on April 22, 1889, with an estimated 50,000 people lined up for their piece of the available two million acres. It was called a land run as land was claimed on a first come, first served basis.

Those who broke the rules by crossing the border into the territory before it was allowed were said to have been crossing the border sooner, leading to the term “sooners”, which eventually became the state’s official nickname.

Thus, the state institutionalized the approval of cheating.

1955: Recruiting Violations
Accusations were made by the NCAA of paying player’s tuition after their eligibility had expired, paying the bills of player’s families, and of the liberal spreading around of money in general. OU was put on probation for two years, with the NCAA noting how much it appreciated OU’s cooperation.

1960: The Slush Fund
A NCAA report stated that an OU athletic department official (unnamed) failed to report a slush fund operated by OU staff. The official stonewalled when its existence was revealed. OU was put on “indefinite suspension” until OU proved the slush fund was gone.


1973: Various Violations
Accusations included boosters providing transportation to recruits, and a Sooner assistant falsifying QB Kerry Jackson’s transcript so he would be eligible (the assistant was not terminated). The NCAA gave OU a TV ban and a bowl game ban. Barry Switzer was on the staff at this time, but was an assistant to head coach Chuck Fairbanks.

1980: Sweating the Small Stuff
Lots of smoke, but not much fire. Switzer mocked the NCAA for prosecuting them in his book, “Bootlegger’s Boy”, but players Charles Thompson and Brian Bosworth reported getting paid well in their respective books.

1988: Switzer’s True Colors Show
Any doubts that Switzer ran a dirty program were dispelled by the NCAA’s report covering 1985 and 1986. Assistant coaches offered envelopes with cash to recruits, cars were provided, bills were taken care of, and game tickets were sold. An internal OU investigation revealed no additional violations. Unfortunately, ex-players and recruits talked, so the NCAA reported additional violations.

OU again investigated and found nothing more. The NCAA sanctioned OU, and informed them that if they fought the sanctions, the NCAA had more they could investigate.

Oklahoma received a three year probation, a two year television ban, and a one year bowl ban. Switzer was fired.


April 2006: A Phone Addiction
The NCAA revealed an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson’s staff. Oklahoma escaped major sanctions, as the NCAA found OU guilty of a “failure to monitor,” a less severe ruling than “lack of institutional control,” which had been recommended by the NCAA’s enforcement staff.

The NCAA backed OU’s self-imposed two year probation, but also issued a public reprimand and censure.

August 2006: Big Red Imports
Right before the 2006 football season, it was revealed that Rhett Bomar and J.D. Quinn had been kicked off the team. They had been “employed” by car dealership Big Red Imports, and being paid for work they did not perform. They were let go from the team right before the NCAA came down on OU.

Additional investigations by OU concluded that no additional violations had occurred, even though Adrian Peterson had purchased a vehicle from the dealership before securing financing, driven it for several weeks, and then returned the car. Oklahoma ruled Peterson did not violate rules because the dealership said it was normal business practice.

Oklahoma was forced by the NCAA to forfeit its wins from the 2005 season and lost two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years. It’s probation from the Sampson problem was also extended.

So there you are. Quite a history of dishonesty and cheating the Sooners have.

In all fairness, Bob Stoops seems to be trying to run a clean program. Their 2000 national championship is likely one of the cleanest ever. And there are indications that Stoops didn’t know about the Big Red Imports violations until right before he kicked Bomar and Quinn off the team, although the clearing of Peterson is a bit bothersome.

I’m sure this honesty is just a temporal situation, and Oklahoma will return to its cheating ways soon enough.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:23 AM   #2
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Ruh Roh it's on.....PQ you're up!
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Old 09-09-2010, 01:32 PM   #3
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I believe you mean you're. It's okay, your grammar isn't nearly as bad as what I've seen in some posts on this forum.
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I can live with that.



OU wins by 17
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Actually. If you knew everything about every program, there is NO SUCH THING as a clean program. Not a successful one anyway.

If you think Texas ain't cheating whenever they can, you're kidding yourself.

Oh, and the Peterson thing is so legit it's not even funny.

I have kept a car a few days and not bought it before. I did eventually buy one, but it happens all the time.

BTW, all of this is just another reason why the NFL is far better than college football.

Oh, ya, Charles Thompson has about as much credibility as Mike Tyson.
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I actually believe FSU takes the game but will be watching.
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I believe you mean you're. It's okay, your grammar isn't nearly as bad as what I've seen in some posts on this forum.
Smart ass in every bunch....but usually it's me...I honestly resist the temptation several times to do the same thing so don't feel bad.
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Actually. If you knew everything about every program, there is NO SUCH THING as a clean program. Not a successful one anyway.
If you think Texas ain't cheating whenever they can, you're kidding yourself.
Oh, ya, Charles Thompson has about as much credibility as Mike Tyson.
PQ, You are a good sport about it all! How about a parting photo!!!

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I'll take the Gooners on their own field. They'll be up for this game.

If they lose though I won't lose any sleep.
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I was wrong Sooners. Sorry
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FSU Wins! OU's secondary will be lite-up!!!
Clearly the case. Just remember, the most successful coach at the University of Tejas was an Oklahoman. You would think that with all the talent and resources Mack has, there would be more to show for it.

Congrats on the big win over Wyoming today.
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And who does O-Who play next week? Don't act like Okie's schedule isn't filled with fluff games either.

In all honesty, I was more disappointed with FSU's performance than anything. I mean, really, only 7 points on the board partway into the 4th? Pretty lame for a 17th seed. It's obvious FSU never should've been in the top-20 with that kind of showing...
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And who does O-Who play next week? Don't act like Okie's schedule isn't filled with fluff games either.
Let's see, we play Air Force - a team that had a better record last year (8-5) than any of Tejas' non-conference opponents. You simply can't beat the non-conference cupcakes Mack schedules every year.

Rice: 2-10
Wyoming: 7-6
UCLA: 7-6
FL ATL: 5-7

Yeah, real power-houses there.
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Air Force also beat BYU yesterday, so Air Force apparantly has a strong program.
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Or BYU's not that great this year - we won't know 'til later to see just how good or bad each team's non-conference schedule really was. And Air Force played who last year? Let's see, they beat Nicholls State, New Mexico, San Diego State, Wyoming, Colorado State, Army, UNLV, and then Houston in the Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl...

Color me under-whelmed...

But I suppose the Sooner faithful have a lot more respect for any team that finished the season with the same record (8-5) last year
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Silly horn. And Tejas played who last year? Their "signature" wins were over 10-4 Nebraska and 8-5 Oklahoma. The only top 10 team Tejas played last year beat them handedly. But congratulations on that third Big XII championship. Now the entire state of Tejas has...less championships than we do
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Do you want your crow baked or fried? LMFAO
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Sooo... who won, ponyboy?

...But seriously, that was a great write-up, ahh the good ol' days

We be fixin tah de-horn some moo cows soon enough. Brace yourself.
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Sooo... who won, ponyboy?

...But seriously, that was a great write-up, ahh the good ol' days

We be fixin tah de-horn some moo cows soon enough. Brace yourself.
Same crap I hear year and year! Like most are saying "OU should either be ranked #1, or FSU really SUCKS", I will go with the FSU SUXS!!
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Same crap I hear year and year! Like most are saying "OU should either be ranked #1, or FSU really SUCKS", I will go with the FSU SUXS!!
It's only because we've spent 97 weeks ranked #1 in the AP Poll that it "seems" like you hear it every year...
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Does anyone here know where the hostility between OU and Texas stems from?

I mean, as a former member of the LHB, I have a few legitimate reasons to hate Sooner fans, but for the most part all of the Sooner fans and Longhorn fans just blidnly hate each other without even wondering why that is. I find it a bit humorous...
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Does anyone here know where the hostility between OU and Texas stems from?

I mean, as a former member of the LHB, I have a few legitimate reasons to hate Sooner fans, but for the most part all of the Sooner fans and Longhorn fans just blidnly hate each other without even wondering why that is. I find it a bit humorous...
Well, see if it was not for the state of Texas, OU could not field a team (not a top 25 team)! Being a fifth generation UT grad, I don't hate OU people; I just wish they would change the name to "The University of Texas @ Norman"!
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Really???????????????????

Okalahoma 47 FSU 17 That's a lot of crow. You let your dislike for OU make your pick, not reality.
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Well, see if it was not for the state of Texas, OU could not field a team (not a top 25 team)! Being a fifth generation UT grad, I don't hate OU people; I just wish they would change the name to "The University of Texas @ Norman"!
I think the hate starts with the fact that OU has been more successful over the years and decades than Texas and Texas feels crapy about it because OU does it with less talent than them. Or at least supposed to be less talent.

I mean, Texas DOES get the first pick of in state recruits.......... right?

Or do they????????? ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think the hate starts with the fact that OU has been more successful over the years and decades than Texas and Texas feels crapy about it because OU does it with less talent than them. Or at least supposed to be less talent.
Top 10 Winningest College Football Programs
1. Michigan: 877-304-38
2. Texas: 845-321-34
3. Notre Dame: 837-291-42
4. Nebraska: 827-341-41
5. Ohio State: 819-308-53
6. Alabama: 813-316-43
7. Penn State 812-351-43
8. Oklahoma: 796-305-53
9. Tennessee: 783-333-55
10. USC: 774-307-54

Texas vs. OU
Texas Longhorns 59 wins, Oklahoma Sooners 40 wins (5 ties)

All Sports National Titles & Championships
Texas has won 47 total national championships,39 of which are NCAA national championships.

OU has won 26

Even in the classroom

Admissions Data (2009)

UT Avg. ACT Scores
ACT COMP 24/30
ACT ENGLISH 23/31
ACT MATH 25/32
•Percent of Applicants Admitted: 45%

OU Avg. ACT Scores
ACT COMP 23/28
ACT ENGLISH 22/29
ACT MATH 21/28
•Percent of Applicants Admitted: 73%

See, PQ at "The University of Texas" you get the "Full meal deal"
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