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Blkcamaro757 · 10-19-2010, 11:39 AM

I'm trying to find best setup to increase my boost to about 9-11 PSI for my turbo LS3 SS. The route i wanted to go was just to buy pistons and rods an install them. But some is saying to buy just a bottom end block. And others saying buy a whole block. But whats the best route to go? I don't plan on goin over 900hp to the wheels. SO please people help with what brand of pistons and rods and what ever else I need, i'm still a newb at all this. Also include company and price. I did do a search but most sites didn't show anything out yet. Just showed things for LS7, Ls1 and Ls2 motors.

Jchaluja · 10-19-2010, 12:34 PM

you're crazy, you just got your TT and are ready to tear it appart

that's awesome!!

Blkcamaro757 · 10-19-2010, 01:32 PM

Lol just want to be able to turn boost up at will without blowing up the motor.

JANNETTYRACING · 10-19-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blkcamaro757

I'm trying to find best setup to increase my boost to about 9-11 PSI for my turbo LS3 SS. The route i wanted to go was just to buy pistons and rods an install them. But some is saying to buy just a bottom end block. And others saying buy a whole block. But whats the best route to go? I don't plan on goin over 900hp to the wheels. SO please people help with what brand of pistons and rods and what ever else I need, i'm still a newb at all this. Also include company and price. I did do a search but most sites didn't show anything out yet. Just showed things for LS7, Ls1 and Ls2 motors.

GM Has Boost Ready LS3 Crate engine for like 5500.00

And I have 416 Stroker kits also.

Ted.

Blkcamaro757 · 10-19-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

GM Has Boost Ready LS3 Crate engine for like 5500.00

And I have 416 Stroker kits also.

Ted.

How much hp are they good up to?

JANNETTYRACING · 10-19-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blkcamaro757

How much hp are they good up to?

You will run up against the limit of the block and head sealing capability before the rotating assembly, north of 900 RWHP

Ted.

Blkcamaro757 · 10-19-2010, 04:04 PM

800RWHP is enough for me LOL. So you just dont sell the pistons and rods if I dont want to buy a whole block?

JANNETTYRACING · 10-19-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Blkcamaro757

800RWHP is enough for me LOL. So you just dont sell the pistons and rods if I dont want to buy a whole block?

Yes we sell Anything you need for your Car.

Ted.

IPSjeff · 10-19-2010, 05:04 PM

Even though they are not a "Must" I would consider 6-bolt heads to avoid any potential lifting issues. A big HP "Boost" cam would be a nice addition to any 408-427ci short-block. I would use the same cam we have in the single-turbo Z06 right now

That FMIC core won't be close to sufficient at "Big" boost and/or those power levels. You will need to notch or remove the front bumper support to fit a 5"+ core if you want to keep it air-to-air or piggy-back a 4" core with a meth kit. Just something to keep in mind...

I don't remember how large your injectors are but keep an eye on your duty cycle. Your single-pump / BAP set-up will need upgraded for sure (Minimally dual-pump set-up).

We are putting a build like this together right now in a 2010 SS so I will start a separate thread so you can see some of the necessary upgrades you will need to do/consider beyond the "Base" TT kit.
Jeff

Slowhawk · 10-19-2010, 06:27 PM

Since your in Virginia - talked to Virginia speed. They build nasty LS motors. I just finished tuning a twin turbo LS3 based 416ci today.They built me the shortblock(and a tons more) and this thing took alot of power without a hiccup.

Just throwing pistons/rods into it is the start.You need a machinist that knows these motors to hone them right,then you should be pinning the main caps.Alot goes into a strong shortblock.

I wouldn't recommend the gm ones.Blew a rod right out the bottom when we tried to push one with low boost.

old motorhead · 10-19-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowhawk

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I wouldn't recommend the gm ones.Blew a rod right out the bottom when we tried to push one with low boost.

Do you think the connecting rods are the weak spot on those motors or did something else give up before the rod exited?

Blkcamaro757 · 10-19-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IPSjeff

Even though they are not a "Must" I would consider 6-bolt heads to avoid any potential lifting issues. A big HP "Boost" cam would be a nice addition to any 408-427ci short-block. I would use the same cam we have in the single-turbo Z06 right now

That FMIC core won't be close to sufficient at "Big" boost and/or those power levels. You will need to notch or remove the front bumper support to fit a 5"+ core if you want to keep it air-to-air or piggy-back a 4" core with a meth kit. Just something to keep in mind...

I don't remember how large your injectors are but keep an eye on your duty cycle. Your single-pump / BAP set-up will need upgraded for sure (Minimally dual-pump set-up).

We are putting a build like this together right now in a 2010 SS so I will start a separate thread so you can see some of the necessary upgrades you will need to do/consider beyond the "Base" TT kit.
Jeff

I was going to buy a duel pump setup but i'm waiting on a Tri fuel pump. Should be out before xmas. And I have 50lbs injectors so those will be upgraded too. I just want a motor with the same specs as my Ls3 but able to hold 12psi of boost or 800-900rwhp.

Supercharged SS · 10-19-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Yes we sell Anything you need for your Car.

Ted.

And even the s*#t you don't think you need!

Blkcamaro757 · 10-20-2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

And even the s*#t you don't think you need!

How much them DSS 1400 HP Axles run you?

10-19-2010, 11:39 AM	#1
Blkcamaro757 Drives: 2010 camaro RS SS 6speed Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Suffolk, VA Posts: 245	Best set up to Increase Boost? I'm trying to find best setup to increase my boost to about 9-11 PSI for my turbo LS3 SS. The route i wanted to go was just to buy pistons and rods an install them. But some is saying to buy just a bottom end block. And others saying buy a whole block. But whats the best route to go? I don't plan on goin over 900hp to the wheels. SO please people help with what brand of pistons and rods and what ever else I need, i'm still a newb at all this. Also include company and price. I did do a search but most sites didn't show anything out yet. Just showed things for LS7, Ls1 and Ls2 motors. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeOJd8zTl3U http://s1008.photobucket.com/albums/...%20ss%20turbo/ http://www.dtpracing.com/ http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/

10-19-2010, 01:32 PM	#3
Blkcamaro757 Drives: 2010 camaro RS SS 6speed Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Suffolk, VA Posts: 245	Lol just want to be able to turn boost up at will without blowing up the motor. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeOJd8zTl3U http://s1008.photobucket.com/albums/...%20ss%20turbo/ http://www.dtpracing.com/ http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/

10-19-2010, 04:04 PM	#7
Blkcamaro757 Drives: 2010 camaro RS SS 6speed Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Suffolk, VA Posts: 245	800RWHP is enough for me LOL. So you just dont sell the pistons and rods if I dont want to buy a whole block? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeOJd8zTl3U http://s1008.photobucket.com/albums/...%20ss%20turbo/ http://www.dtpracing.com/ http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/

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10-19-2010, 12:34 PM	#2
Jchaluja Drives: Twin Turbo Camaro Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,148	you're crazy, you just got your TT and are ready to tear it appart that's awesome!!

10-19-2010, 05:04 PM	#9
IPSjeff Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 638	Even though they are not a "Must" I would consider 6-bolt heads to avoid any potential lifting issues. A big HP "Boost" cam would be a nice addition to any 408-427ci short-block. I would use the same cam we have in the single-turbo Z06 right now That FMIC core won't be close to sufficient at "Big" boost and/or those power levels. You will need to notch or remove the front bumper support to fit a 5"+ core if you want to keep it air-to-air or piggy-back a 4" core with a meth kit. Just something to keep in mind... I don't remember how large your injectors are but keep an eye on your duty cycle. Your single-pump / BAP set-up will need upgraded for sure (Minimally dual-pump set-up). We are putting a build like this together right now in a 2010 SS so I will start a separate thread so you can see some of the necessary upgrades you will need to do/consider beyond the "Base" TT kit. Jeff

10-19-2010, 06:27 PM	#10
Slowhawk Account Suspended Drives: 1999 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgewater,Ma Posts: 1,271	Since your in Virginia - talked to Virginia speed. They build nasty LS motors. I just finished tuning a twin turbo LS3 based 416ci today.They built me the shortblock(and a tons more) and this thing took alot of power without a hiccup. Just throwing pistons/rods into it is the start.You need a machinist that knows these motors to hone them right,then you should be pinning the main caps.Alot goes into a strong shortblock. I wouldn't recommend the gm ones.Blew a rod right out the bottom when we tried to push one with low boost.