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Old 10-24-2010, 11:27 AM   #52
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It's a warp drive...... but seriously! In the first gens. the Z wasn't any more powerful than the SS so whats to say they do offer the 556 in the SS in 2012. At least 1 7/8" headers and 3" hi flow back with (cowl inducted) CAI + tune. I'm sure they read this and it is the most common mods that don't stress the drive-train just the warranty.
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:30 AM   #53
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Huh, interesting. I wonder what they will be changing if they are keeping the same engines.

Cam and ECM should do it.
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:33 AM   #54
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I would like to see them dump the L99 all together. Use the LS3 for both A6 and M6 and just use the gearing to avoid the gas guzzler tax, just like they did on the 4th gens and just like Ford is doing. For the A6, offer a 3.08 rear end to miss the gas guzzler tax, and the 3.55 or 3.73 for the performance package. We all know pushing 460-480 out of the LS3 will be easy, it is more of a marketing decision of how much to add and when to do it. I expect the new rating to be right around 450. Just dump the AFM already though, it is not worth the drop in performance, and for those that want better economy, you offer the highway gears.
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:50 AM   #55
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Well to really beat the Mustang just give us 3.73 gears from the factory and problem solved. Then on paper they should be the same with just that change.
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:53 AM   #56
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btw, where did those specs come from? i'd like to know the specs on that mustang and if those runs are by people or ideal perfect-run scenarios...
Car and Driver magazine....
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:56 AM   #57
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According to GMAuthority, the Camaro SS is set to receive a power bump. Their sources are indicating that more power will be coming to both the LS3 and L99 Camaro SS.

The power bump is said to be a reaction by GM to the new Mustang 5.0's quicker quarter mile time. No exact power increase numbers were quoted or provided, but the increase in power would begin with the 2012 Camaros.

This would make the second major change coming to the 2012 Camaros, in addition to the expected revamped and improved interior.
This is very cool news. The Camaro rocks. I love it when a good thing gets even better.

Here's hoping it's an actual boost in power and not just a "less conservative rating". Seeing how they wanna beat the Mustang's 1/4 time, I imagine it will be.

Consumers stand to benefit from this competition. These two are waging war to build the best muscle car. Love it.
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:06 PM   #58
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More power for the SS?
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:25 PM   #59
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:25 PM   #60
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Looking at the picture on the homepage, it looks like they fixed the paint rubbing off under the spoiler too, oh no, I'm sure I'm mistaken, since as of this week mine will have been painted three times, I dare not say the problem will have been solved just painted three times.
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:31 PM   #61
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The SS already beats the GT.



The V6 is the one that loses to the Mustang V6. I agree that its the gearing. One look at the top speeds difference wil tell U somethings up.




Mustang V6 Top speed 113MPH
Camaro V6 Top Speed 157MPH
Got to keep the mpg number though and gears will hurt that. Mustang gets 31 mpg but only with the 2.73 gears not the 3.31 which makes it fast.The GT according to the one mag in the driving they did lost or got 2 mpg less then the SS and Challanger with the 3.73 gears.
But that being said offer a track pack option with 3.55 or 3.73 gears and maybe with those combos tweak the trans gears to help on gas and accel.

I would like to change mine to that but $1800 or so for gears/install and tune is steep so I will wait and see.
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:37 PM   #62
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:17 PM   #63
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:28 PM   #64
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:47 PM   #65
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they're aluminum... so you wouldn't get that much out of them.


btw, where did those specs come from? i'd like to know the specs on that mustang and if those runs are by people or ideal perfect-run scenarios...
The one in Blue is from ROAD AND TRACK

The other one is from CAR and Driver


in the end the Mustang won because GM took a Loan from the Taxpayer
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:49 PM   #66
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Don't hold your breath on that one. I will say that the 3.6L or 3.0L will be getting a TURBO for 2012, at least in Cadillac trim
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:49 PM   #67
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This is very cool news. The Camaro rocks. I love it when a good thing gets even better.

Consumers stand to benefit from this competition. These two are waging war to build the best muscle car. Love it.
Totally agree... the Pony Car Wars are back and the only real winner will be the consumer/auto enthusiasts!! Exciting enhancements and improvements will be coming out year after year as the Camaro vs. Mustang vs. Challenger battles evolve. I'm freakin lovin it!!
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:51 PM   #68
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The good thing about this is that it makes both the mustang and camaro better cars. Both companies are going to leapfrog each other improving the cars which really benefits us as the buyer!

These engine respond so well to bolt ons, that pulling out more power is really quite easy to do.
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