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Old 10-24-2010, 06:53 PM   #99
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:54 PM   #100
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I hhave a very simple and effective solution to the problem.number 1, give the SS the 427 Z06 engine. Number 2 a body of carbonfiber.and 3.73 gears. end of story.
The LS7 is too expensive. It actually costs more to build one than the LSA (CTS-V) and LS9 (ZR1)

The SS already beats the GT. Chevy is going for the publicity of saying it's OWNS the GT once and for all.

New interior, altho I love mine, Z28, Convertible, and a power increase for the SS... Chevy is looking to keep that sales lead. Truth be told, I would be surprised if we don't see the 3.6L getting a power boost to 330HP as well.
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:07 PM   #101
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Wow I love all this speculation. Now here are questions I pose to myself and hopefully some people can answer reasonably.

1. How much weight would be saved going from the 6.2L to the new 5.5L (aluminum block right?) from just switching out engines?

2. Why not give the V6 the 3.0L LF3 engine! GM's got the engine, hopefully, they are just finishing up testing it.
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:45 PM   #102
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Its reasonable, feasible and wouldn't require a huge outlay in new development and I know GM isn't going to do it.

Raid the GM performance parts bin:
Cold air box has GM sold any?
Shorty headers same story...
GM exhaust, yes a few are sold. But most buyers aren't swapping at all or are heading right to aftermarket.

Suggestion:
  • Trans from CTS-V with 3:73 ratio (know it can handle the power)
  • Hit the parts bi: Put on the shorties / GM cold air box / GM exhaust (get them out of the warehouse they are in gathering dust)
  • A sway bar and swap out the 245s up front for another set of 275s.
  • Pop in the LS Hot Cam. (LS376/480...)
With the Cam, Headers and Exhaust swap, it should be good for ~45hp to the wheels.

Gear change gets the trap speed up.
Sway bars and wheels gets the cornering speeds up.
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:56 PM   #103
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Yes a gearing change would lower MPGs for those cars equipped with it, and I guess would lower the overall average MPG of all cars if they are somehow keeping track of how many are sold with higher gearing versus those with lower.

BUT they can still advertise the 29 MPG highway as they are now, just as ford advertises 31 for the mustang. We all know you can only get that with the higher geared mustang, but general public won't realize it. I'm not saying lower the gearing and thats it, but instead give us another option just like ford does.

But again, as I said before, I'm sure offering a gearing change could cost GM more money in development and assembly and such rather than doing something simple like writing a new tune or adding intake/exhaust tweaks.
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:57 PM   #104
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I still don't see why they won't just offer us gearing options and leave the engines alone. A lower "track" geared option would easily be the equivilant of another 40 - 60 lbs/Tq and get those fast 0 - 60 and quarter mile times.

But who knows, if all they are going to do is offer a revised tune then I guess that is probably a cheaper way to go.
Because shorter gearing does not give your car any more power. It just kills your fuel economy.

A car that has 430HP will have 430HP whether you have 3.42's or 5.13's. Meaning it will not accelerate any harder with the shorter gears.

All shorter gears do is help you get off the line harder and into the powerband. Thats how it improves ET's. Once the car is in the powerband though, it will not be any faster. That would be physically impossible.

So unless you launch your car on slicks at every stoplight, shorter gears would be nothing but a downgrade.
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:59 PM   #105
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Wow I love all this speculation. Now here are questions I pose to myself and hopefully some people can answer reasonably.

1. How much weight would be saved going from the 6.2L to the new 5.5L (aluminum block right?) from just switching out engines?
Absolutely nothing.

They are both all aluminum engines, the small amount of extra material on the cylinder walls probably adds up to about 5 ounces of total weight difference. The architecture if the engines is the same.
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Old 10-24-2010, 08:06 PM   #106
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This is awesome! However, folks there may be a few problems with your solutions. A gearing change would likely result in lower fuel economy all around. If it drops too low you will have to pay a GG tax. You have to pay to play.
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No, like Ford, the gear ratios would be completely optional. That way, there is no effect on the fleet mpg or gas guzzler.
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Old 10-24-2010, 08:27 PM   #107
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Old 10-24-2010, 08:31 PM   #108
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Great, make my decision to grab a 2011 SS next year even harder. To wait, or not? gah! :(
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Old 10-24-2010, 08:47 PM   #109
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Great, make my decision to grab a 2011 SS next year even harder. To wait, or not? gah! :(
I would wait to see the new interior and performance. The 2012 will be out by the end of next year most likely... so waiting a couple months might be worth it.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:39 PM   #110
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all they have to do is raise the rev limiter a little and there's your "increase" in power. A redesigned air box can result in 10-15 hp more. What i'm getting at is it won't take a lot and don't expect another 75 hp for those that are speculating and getting their hopes up.

I wouldn't expect anything drastic like new redesigned cylinder heads or cam or something lol.

small simple changes .

In the end, who cares, it's not like you're gonna keep your car stock anyway..
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In the end, who cares, it's not like you're gonna keep your car stock anyway..
I have no idea where you get your information from good sir.
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Old 10-24-2010, 10:14 PM   #112
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Why dont they just make the dam car lighter. The power is already there it just needs less weight.
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