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Old 10-27-2008, 11:35 PM   #26
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Even heavy cars on an IRS FEEL heavy. I dunno that is my experience and without going on a diet a little or putting Thousands in aftermarket parts it will feel heavy.

.... But if you are comparing it to the likes of those cars this will feel and drive like a pig.. that is all I am trying to say.
Then we'll agree to disagree, I suppose.

But come a few months when this thing is out and about...I expect just as many people eating crow as they did when prices were announced...this car WILL deliver.
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:23 AM   #27
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The little Cobalt SS will blow your mind . I haven't seen the 4dr yet, but man that 4dr would be a QShip and a half.

I'm fairly set on the V6 Camaro at this point, the only issue I have is that the Camaro is the exact opposite of a QShip (which is also what I love, it's beautiful). A little grey Cobalt might as well just disappear while the Camaro is screaming loudly to come give me a ticket.

Not saying I'm changing my mind, but giving respect where it's deserved.


Over all the Camaro V6 is not going to disappoint!

Unless you have your sites on performance alone, like I do which I know I'm better off holding off for an SS...

My father a test driver for GM has been driving the Camaro frequently and after driving a Camaro LS he said he was impressed. Impressed to the point where he wants one, even a V6, and my dad is a V8 kind of guy....
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:20 AM   #28
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Thats cool. The strange thing is someone else just posted a thread of a "friend" that just drove the V6 and said "while it was fun peppy, it left something to be desired" or something similar to that

It all comes down to your personal tastes and expectations. I am also in it for pretty much just the performance. Can't get SS performance for that kinda money anywhere in the new car market
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:40 AM   #29
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May want to check this thread out...
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=645082

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Old 10-29-2008, 11:09 AM   #30
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Excellent read. Thanks for posting garfin.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:42 PM   #31
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I'm not sure exactly what some of you are expecting. I could be wrong, but I doubt that more than 10% of the people on this board (and maybe 1% of the Camaro buyers) could actually wring all the potential performance out of a V6, let alone a V8. A couple of you may try a track day. Stop light races are just a fast way to higher insurance, they don't really prove a thing.

This car is a GT car, not a true sports car or really even a muscle car. It's designed to be able to be sporty and fun in a wide variety of conditions and still be liveable on a road trip (edit or as a daily driver). Unlike a Corvette (at least the z06 and up models) which ARE designed to do track work. I'd argue that a Cobalt is designed for track days as well at least at the SCCA and autocross level because the guy who set up the suspension is a several time winner of that kind of racing. The Z28 may be as well (which traditionally is what that moniker meant). In the meantime, don't get too wrung out over these details.
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:51 PM   #32
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:05 PM   #33
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Top Speed?? Anyone know? Care to guess?
I can't see it being over 155mph, 160mph tops...
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:09 PM   #34
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300hp and a not so aerodynamic body with a tall ride height... 140-150.
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Top speed will be governed at 155 mph. This has already been officially stated.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:05 PM   #37
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And I was guessing too! It's going to take forever though for it to get up to 155...
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:24 PM   #38
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And I was guessing too! It's going to take forever though for it to get up to 155...
You never give up, do ya?
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You never give up, do ya?
Ok... I'll go easy on the V6 Camaro. I just don't think it's going to be as fast as we're hoping... Not saying it'll be slow by any means, but just judging off of what I know, but by factoring the weight of the Camaro, and the torque that it's making I just don't see it being quicker than 5.7 & 14.1 that's all. It's power to weight ratio in comparison to other similar vehicles support this... But hey I'm hoping to be proven wrong. And If I am, here's a deal Dragoneye, when the V6 Camaro comes out and if it is quicker than what I've predicted make a post that I was wrong, and I'll to Dragoneye...
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The thing is I don't see how it could be any faster then what you have predicted above without bosting the output of the engine. If they are keeping it to 304 HP then that means they aren't tweaking parts or the tune (which would both change the output of HP and TQ).

Since the tranny is what it is and they released the ratios and final drive rear end then they aren't tweaking those either. So I don't see where they are going to get more performance from when we already know what the CTS does with "basically" the same setup. since the CTS goes 6.1-6.3 depending on what you read, I can't see this car going faster then 5.7 with the hardest launch possible with the same output. It isn't that much lighter to get those kinda gains.

That said 5.7 would be a pretty quick car but again GM would'nt want to make it any faster then around 5.9 for marketing reasons. They are not going to make a 5.1 5.3 car when the SS will be like 4.6. They need to keep them far enough apart so there is a market for both
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:52 PM   #41
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Ok... I'll go easy on the V6 Camaro. I just don't think it's going to be as fast as we're hoping... Not saying it'll be slow by any means, but just judging off of what I know, but by factoring the weight of the Camaro, and the torque that it's making I just don't see it being quicker than 5.7 & 14.1 that's all. It's power to weight ratio in comparison to other similar vehicles support this... But hey I'm hoping to be proven wrong. And If I am, here's a deal Dragoneye, when the V6 Camaro comes out and if it is quicker than what I've predicted make a post that I was wrong, and I'll to Dragoneye...
No, no, I agree with your predictions! I'm just busting your chops. In my head I read it like a little kid movie...

"The Camaro can't get up to 155" *person one says proudly*
"It can, and has" *person two says with a raised eyebrow*
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That said 5.7 would be a pretty quick car but again GM would'nt want to make it any faster then around 5.9 for marketing reasons. They are not going to make a 5.1 5.3 car when the SS will be like 4.6. They need to keep them far enough apart so there is a market for both
Agreed...might as well drop the LS/LT, and make two more SS models if it was that quick....
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:11 PM   #42
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The thing is I don't see how it could be any faster then what you have predicted above without bosting the output of the engine. If they are keeping it to 304 HP then that means they aren't tweaking parts or the tune (which would both change the output of HP and TQ).
The three of us are all on the same page here. I was just saying @ the quickest possible stock. I don't think that the 5th Camaro V6 will be quicker than 5.7 & 14.1/2. With just going off of C&D and a few other magazines saying they were indeed able to achieve 5.8 in the RWD V6 CTS... So giving .1 of a second slower/faster is why I'm saying 5.7 seeing that the Camaro V6 is just slightly lighter vs the CTS...

Realistically I think the Camaro V6 will be doing it in 6.1-5.8 & the 1/4 in 14.5-14.2 somewhere in that range...

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No, no, I agree with your predictions! I'm just busting your chops. In my head I read it like a little kid movie...


Yeah, we're all on the same page obviously we want the V6 Camaro to be as quick as possible but thinking it'll do 0-60 @ or under 5.7 is pretty wishful thinking...
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but thinking it'll do 0-60 @ or under 5.7 is pretty wishful thinking...
Very true...but not when you throw minor mods into the mix... Which I plan on doing should I get one. An intake and exhaust, maybe a tune -- and a 5.5 and lower 0-60 suddenly looks much more achieveable.
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Just speculation here, but what do you think the Camaro V6 will run in the 1/4 mile with intake, exhaust, and a tune?
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Just speculation here, but what do you think the Camaro V6 will run in the 1/4 mile with intake, exhaust, and a tune?
Depends on 1.) stock speed & 2.) how much HP bolt-ons will give it

If the V6 Camaro does 0-60 in 5.9-6.1 it'll do the 1/4 in probably 14.5-14.3 so mods will probably get it into the 14.1-13.8 range...

If the V6 Camaro does 0-60 in 5.9-5.7 looking at a 1/4 of probably 14.3-14.1 so maybe with mods 14-13.6 maybe even 13.5....

intake won't give too much hp 10-15hp max w tune, exhaust should give a good 25+ HP though.... I figure with intake, exhaust, headers, high flow cat, + tune ballpark HP gains of 40-50hp...

Could be looking at a V6 Camaro doing the quarter in mid 13's which isn't too bad...

That's my guess though...
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Depends on 1.) stock speed & 2.) how much HP bolt-ons will give it

If the V6 Camaro does 0-60 in 5.9-6.1 it'll do the 1/4 in probably 14.5-14.3 so mods will probably get it into the 14.1-13.8 range...

If the V6 Camaro does 0-60 in 5.9-5.7 looking at a 1/4 of probably 14.3-14.1 so maybe with mods 14-13.6 maybe even 13.5....

intake won't give too much hp 10-15hp max w tune, exhaust should give a good 25+ HP though.... I figure with intake, exhaust, headers, high flow cat, + tune ballpark HP gains of 40-50hp...

Could be looking at a V6 Camaro doing the quarter in mid 13's which isn't too bad...


That's my guess though...
So with full bolt-ons it will be near the LS1 camaro 1/4 mile, not bad I suppose.
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Gained about 30 RWHP with intake and exhaust with no tune at all, and no change to the headers/cats. Estimated 1/4 is 14.1 - real world times should be a tick faster. With intake, full exhaust, and tune, I expect the v6 will be chasing LS1's.
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It would be nice. I got spoiled by a LS1 powered car as my daily. Now, I expect all cars to have the same pull.
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Anyway you want to slice it,,,, GM is putting out 2 great models that will satisfy ALL walks of life.
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