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Old 11-28-2010, 09:22 AM   #26
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You make the car go where you want it. Just depends on how you set it up. I seen a dodge omni run a 11 sec run at the strip and im sure that car was never meant for the strip.

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There is something to be said about having a "sleeper" car.

Let's face it. Most people look at a Camaro (or in my case Challenger) and see this bad ass machine that looks like it should kill other cars in a drag race or around the streets. But the problem is that the common person doesn't appreciate the weight factor nor the other suspension factors...let alone individual driving abilities of those that own them. And so, our cars can be a "let down" for some expecting more.

Fact is, we own awesome machines for the price points both on the street, and on the strip. We won't win awards for twisty road course track runs though. We simply aren't engineered/designed for it. Buy another car if that's where your enjoyment lies. I think that t.v. show has to keep coming up with ideas/topics and that head to head was just a fun demonstration/exhibition.

It's all relative.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:07 AM   #27
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There is something to be said about having a "sleeper" car.

Let's face it. Most people look at a Camaro (or in my case Challenger) and see this bad ass machine that looks like it should kill other cars in a drag race or around the streets. But the problem is that the common person doesn't appreciate the weight factor nor the other suspension factors...let alone individual driving abilities of those that own them. And so, our cars can be a "let down" for some expecting more.

Fact is, we own awesome machines for the price points both on the street, and on the strip. We won't win awards for twisty road course track runs though. We simply aren't engineered/designed for it. Buy another car if that's where your enjoyment lies. I think that t.v. show has to keep coming up with ideas/topics and that head to head was just a fun demonstration/exhibition.

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But still, it couldn't hurt to want more
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:16 AM   #28
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My dad used to own a 2009 6-Speed Challenger SRT-8. Ya the car was fast with a lot of torque, but the Camaro IS faster and handles much better.
Not to say the challenger wasn't BADA$$
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:29 PM   #29
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like i have always said the camaro CAN NOT handle, but it was not made to handle, its made for the drag
That explains the IRS
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:42 PM   #30
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Doesn't he think both of these cars would go around the track better if IT WASN'T RAINING??!!
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:49 PM   #31
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why does it only have 395hp?? do they have a different engine in Australia??
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:53 PM   #32
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Lol that guy is stupid and it's an auto poor old man can't drive stick hahaha
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:00 PM   #33
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395hp for the camaro? 20 less hp then the dodge?? what? Is that guy on crack? lol Aren't they rated at the same? (426?)
Its the automatic and probably the cars are rated slightly different in the UK.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:02 PM   #34
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LOL. Tiff Needell is one of the great drivers.

The fact remains that the Camaro SS understeers and the '10 Chally handles like patio furniture.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:10 PM   #35
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Odd that they went with the L99 insterad of LS3. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:12 PM   #36
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The LS3 is 426, while the 6.1L Hemi is 425. However, the L99 was originally rated at 395 hp so that may be where they got the 395 from.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:36 PM   #37
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My Camaro handles pretty well... not many stock suspension parts left on it, though. My Challenger handles terrible... suspension is all stock.
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:01 PM   #38
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Thanks! Cool video!

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Old 11-28-2010, 02:04 PM   #39
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I haven't had the oppertunity to drive either yet, however I have ridden in both (saving my first drive for my own SS in a few months...) but I find it very hard to believe that bulky huge Dodge is only. 7 of a second behind the SS... I think a better driver may be in order... not buyin it!
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:19 PM   #40
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He's trying to drive it like a BMW or Bathhurst.

Drive it like a Camaro.......its not a bucking Bronco rodeo ride Dopey, its a kick your a$$ run with the bulls!!! I treat mine heavy handed and with brute force, not like a ballerina Tanner Faust racer on TV.
Seems to get around Watkins Glenn and Lime Rock just fine!!
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:54 PM   #41
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That guy is a condescending, American bashing di~k! Fu~k him!
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:01 PM   #42
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LOL. Tiff Needell is one of the great drivers.
Exactly! Comparing Tiff's driving skill to Clarkson's is an insult to Tiff.
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Saying Tiff Needell Can't drive is straight up blasphemy!
For the record, Clarkson (top gear) can't hold Vicki's (fifth gear) bra nevermind Tiff's jock strap!
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:23 PM   #43
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^^^^^ I guess no one will complain about the Tiff being a bad driver anymore. Ha!

Fact of the matter is, our Camaro's arent the best handlig cars out there. Its not the end of the world folks.....all that can change in due time
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:36 PM   #44
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^^^^^ I guess no one will complain about the Tiff being a bad driver anymore. Ha!

Fact of the matter is, our Camaro's arent the best handlig cars out there. Its not the end of the world folks.....all that can change in due time
True! Or that he bashes all things American. He chose a ZO6 over a Ferrari 599 and a 911 Turbo! That is something Clarkson would NEVER do!

I think the Camaro did fine in the video. It did still win. It was the L99 compared to the SRT-8. Tiff even said he was pleasantly surprised...
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:47 PM   #45
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I'm assuming he's driving the L99 A6 because of the HP rating and the fact I never saw him shift gears.
Either way, it still beats an SRT-8 around a race track.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:51 PM   #46
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I'm assuming he's driving the L99 A6 because of the HP rating and the fact I never saw him shift gears.
Either way, it still beats an SRT-8 around a race track.
It was. Look at the steering wheel in the vid. You can see the tap-shifters on the back. It was the A6. As you stated it still did beat a SRT-8
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:55 PM   #47
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When Fifth Gear gave the actual review of the car a few months back it was the LS3
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:58 PM   #48
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Old 11-28-2010, 04:01 PM   #49
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I'm assuming he's driving the L99 A6 because of the HP rating and the fact I never saw him shift gears.
Either way, it still beats an SRT-8 around a race track.
A little off topic but, how much were those wheels and tires if you dont mind me asking? I really like them. I'm looking at the TSW Nurburgrings and TSW Interlagos to suit my CGM SS
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A little off topic but, how much were those wheels and tires if you dont mind me asking? I really like them. I'm looking at the TSW Nurburgrings and TSW Interlagos to suit my CGM SS
The Nurburgrings were $1400.00. They're 20x9.0 and 20x10.0.

The front tires are the stock 245s. Out back I'm running Nitto 555R drag radials (305/35/20s).
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