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Old 12-16-2010, 01:38 PM   #1
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Community Poll>>Viniati Spoiler To Be Made?

First off please tell us what you like and dislike about this wing so we can make a similar one - but geared to your tastes. Viniati will make this happen, and we have a car on standby in LA upon your approval.

YOU DECIDE IF THIS PROJECT GETS DONE! We are behind CAMARO5 forum users 100%, so if you don't want it or don't like it no big deal. I saw the opportunity and we have the talent to make this project green light. However we have plenty of products we supply and make already so don't worry about saying what's on your mind!



For serious buyers who want this to happen please PM me, we have had a few customers contact already but we want to see what you have to say.

Lets see if we can do $350 a wing but at least 20 people.
Carbon for $550 no minimum.
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:40 PM   #2
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well..
if u can do this or make it better! then put me in the list!
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:58 PM   #3
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$350 painted? if so I'm in! if not..I'll have to think about it....
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:59 PM   #4
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Is that price painted or simply primed? In either case it's better than the original designers so you've definitely got my attention.

What I don't like about this one is that you have to fill in some of the holes from your original spoiler and drill new ones. I don't expect the thing to install itself but, filling holes and drilling new ones? That's a NO GO.

My only other suggestion would be to maybe incorporate a little bit of the dovetail spoiler into it so that the rear of the spoiler has a bit of a curve upwards. Not as dramatic as the dovetail but, just enough to give it an edgier look.

Hopefully, that makes sense to you. I'd draw it out or do a photoshop but, my talents lie in electronics and not in those areas. I leave that to you guys
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:18 PM   #5
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:34 PM   #6
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I already have one, and I kinda like being the only guy around with it. So my vote is no
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:05 PM   #7
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$350 painted? if so I'm in! if not..I'll have to think about it....
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:22 PM   #8
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:12 PM   #9
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+1 $350 if painted
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:46 PM   #10
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I would jump all over that if it used the factory install holes. That is the best looking spoiler yet in my opinion.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:06 PM   #11
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People, common sence would tell you that it is NOT going to use the factory mounting holes. It is mounted on 2 posts. You can either get the body shop to fill and paint them, or you can find somebody with an LS the same color and trade them your trunk lid for thiers and not worry about it.

I would be all over this spoiler especially if it is $350ish painted but I know it will be more then that if you paint it. So $350 primed...HELL YEAH!
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:09 PM   #12
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the reason I didn't wait for your spoiler is I was not going to go through the hassle of plugging holes or finding a decklid without a spoiler. some crazy high percentage of Camaros have the spoiler, it is just silly to make a product that doesn't work with the existing holes.

I like the looks. it's just not designed with the average owner in mind and that is a bad move. consider adding a bottom blade similar to the 350z nismo v1 spoiler, imo. that will solve the hole issue.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:17 PM   #13
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Bolt-ons are for beginners! Making something that does not use the factory mounting holes is not silly. Thinking that everything can be made to mount up to factory mounting holes, IS! Not everybody is afraid of a little paint and body work to get the look they want. I think it would look stupid with another spoiler added to to just to make it work with factory holes. Keep up the good work on it like it is!
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:18 PM   #14
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I guess I'll be the fist to not really like it.

Looks too Stealth/Eclipse...ish to me. Changes the lines too much.

JMO though.
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Bolt-ons are for beginners! Making something that does not use the factory mounting holes is not silly. Thinking that everything can be made to mount up to factory mounting holes, IS! Not everybody is afraid of a little paint and body work to get the look they want. I think it would look stupid with another spoiler added to to just to make it work with factory holes. Keep up the good work on it like it is!
if the decklid spoiler was on something small like 25% of the camaros, I would agree with you. I would guess more like 75%+ have them. to design against this and require a couple hundred extra of investment just to make it work .. meh, not for me.

I'm no business major but chances are more people would be interested if it cost them less to make it happen. if it's being designed to be more rare and targeted at a more unique audience, so be it, I'm just sharing the reason why I passed on this spoiler (and I heavily considered buying it)
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:34 PM   #16
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if the decklid spoiler was on something small like 25% of the camaros, I would agree with you. I would guess more like 75%+ have them. to design against this and require a couple hundred extra of investment just to make it work .. meh, not for me.

I'm no business major but chances are more people would be interested if it cost them less to make it happen. if it's being designed to be more rare and targeted at a more unique audience, so be it, I'm just sharing the reason why I passed on this spoiler (and I heavily considered buying it)
You have the RS package... That was 1500 more just for an appearance package. Same thing here. If you want a spoiler that looks diffrent from the Camaros on the used car lot, you gotta pay to play. It seems kinda lazy/cheap/silly to me to not buy something because it takes a little more work/money to make something fit.

But anyway, sorry to threadjack... I LOVE IT and think it should be made ASAP!

OOOO!!!! Painted carbon fiber with some of the CF showing...
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:09 AM   #17
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We will try our best to find a creative way to plug factory holes.

I can look into the costs of paint to shoot them color-matched. Paint is not an issue other than added cost.

But being realistic this is no small spoiler, as stated earlier if the orders are there then we will hook them up with some paint.

We can do anything - I dont have the greatest photoshop skills but I can get someone in the office to throw in a dove tail style into the wing for a possible design option.
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Old 12-17-2010, 09:33 AM   #18
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BlaSSt Off, these guys are taking the original design and improving upon it to make a product normal people want to buy. If you're all gung ho about filling in holes and drilling new ones then good for you. Most people don't want to bondo and drill into their $35k car. Most people are beginners. You say that like it's a bad thing. Like Entaille said, after the initial cost of the spoiler and then the cost to get it painted properly, the total cost of the project is pretty steep. If you're adding in the cost of getting the holes filled professionally and possibly even painted, then you're probably in the neighborhood of the project costing $1k. Most people aren't into paying that much for a spoiler. But, if you can get a painted spoiler for under $500 then I think there's a substantial market for that.

Camchris posted this thread because he wants to know what changes can be made to the original design to make it more sellable to Camaro owners. It doesn't take much to move the mounting points of the spoiler so they align with the factory mounting holes. They're making their own from scratch so they can pretty much do whatever they want. Enough people expressed their dislike of the mounting issue in the original Firebreather spoiler thread to make this a very real issue to consumers. I also suggested a bit of the dovetail look added to give it a little extra of an aggressive look. Otherwise, to me, it kinda just looks like a flat wing. Not everybody will share this opinion and that's fine. Maybe everybody would think it's even more amazing that way. I was just throwing it out there.

Let's see what these guys can come up with.
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Old 12-17-2010, 09:37 AM   #19
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Painted or Carbon Fiber as is - Most likely
Painted or Carbon Fiber with effective way of using existing holes - Definitely.
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:59 PM   #21
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sorry I dont have access to better photos, I clipped these out of facebook..

here is a possible solution. look at the bottom of this spoiler, in between the two posts, the bottom blade could be used to create a half seal to at least hide them, and rubber grommets/silicone could fill the holes or something, they'd be covered and out of sight / out of mind.

this allows owners to revert back to stock later and keeps a sharp appearance, imo.
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:03 PM   #22
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Ok, check this "unprofessional" rendering, I added a small "hang" over the quarter panel, to incorperate a small dove tail on it too.
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:18 PM   #23
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the original looks best
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:44 PM   #24
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I like the dove tail but not the side overhang. I realize it's not a professional rendering but, I think it's a good effort to capture the look. Could you possibly try another angle, like say standing a few feet to the right of the driver's side tire? Think that would help greatly.

Good job though thus far.
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:52 PM   #25
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tHANKS Ill do my best! Trying to get someone else in the office to help me out too make it look better.
If not I should have something shortly.
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