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Old 01-06-2011, 02:03 AM   #18
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I started hanging out with the San Antonio Friday night crew of 5th Gen Camaro owners. What a great group to be associated with... I got lots of compliments on the engine cover, and Doug, Tag, got to drive my car as he was still trying to decide what shifter he wanted...

Well, one of the guys one upped me (in a very nice way) with his engine cover. He did basically the same thing I did but he went a little further, and added a reflector underneath it and lights. When I saw his, I had to add to mine and here is the result... Sorry for the poor quality images...The same guy that added the lights to his, also provided me with a few other items, which may be seen here if you look around...

If you look through the windshield you will see Pink Pig... Pig has close to half a million miles with me and this Camaro is her fourth vehicle...

My wife got Pink Pig for me quite a few years ago after her dad offered me BBQ pork fresh off the grill. I had been at his ranch welding for four days and I really wanted to get home to see his daughter. I drove home, and in the time it took me, he called her and griped about me...to his daughter, my wife, about me taking her over the pork...

She found Pink Pig the next day, and like they say, the rest is history... Pig has been all over Louisiana, and from Texas to Wyoming, to Yellowstone(she didn't care much for the Buffalo, but loved old Faithful), to Utah, and Colorado and out to the White Sands National Monument, which required driving through the White Sands MUSCLE Test Range, thanks Pat and Debbie... and to Carlsbad Caverns...She is looking forward to the trip to Chandler in April... Shes been from sea level to over 11000 feet above it while riding in Brandi...

In Pigs previous three vehicles, she never left the dash, seldom even ventured to the sides of the dash to check out the scenery, but she gets really pissed now when she flies a&& first off the dash and ends up in the backseat... which happens most every time I hammer on Brandi...wait until the Twins get here... holee hell on a pogostick... she'll end by the back window seeing the poor schmuck in the other lane disappear in the distance, dust and tire smoke behind me...

There are a few other pics showing some of the sights Pig has enjoyed as well as Pat and Debs Camaro. We had a great time with them in Los Cruces, (they opened their home to us) and are looking forward to meeting up with them again in April on the way to the Fest II...
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:47 AM   #19
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I've mentioned her quite a bit so far, and will continue to do so, but here are two pics of my Beautiful wife...Without her, I would not be able to do this build.

Thanks Babe
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:07 AM   #20
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Great pictures Robert! I like what you've done with the car thus far, and I'm looking forward to future updates.
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:54 AM   #21
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Great Mods, color look forward to seeing what things you have planned for the future.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:42 PM   #22
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My wife went with me to her first Camaro gathering and she was looking around at other cars. She would ask me questions about parts on other cars and I would either explain what I knew, or ask the owner of the particular car she was looking at to explain it.

She was particularly taken by a Roto-Fab CAI and radiator cover... Cha-Ching.... Guess what my next mod was...We have a member in San Antonio that gets real good deals on stuff and so via him, I placed an order and within a week, I was back in my shop spraying color on the radiator cover. The install was straight forward, and took no time at all....

I'm really hoping that the radiator cover will be able to stay on the car after Brandi delivers the Twins... We are thinking it will, but time will tell... I may have to do some minor fabricating to reshape it a little, but thats nothing...Have cutter, will travel...

And.... until now, other than a few shows, thats about it.... for mods.

Well, last night, I put a set of Eibach lowering springs on her with the able assistance of Joe, Racer778. Thanks Joe...

So, on to now.....
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:45 PM   #23
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Robert,

Love the story, Can't wait to read more !!

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Today...

Well, if you read this far, you know the beginning, now on to the rest of the story....

I've been wanting for a long time to do some mods in the performance category, but I waited until the time was right for us, My wife, me and Brandi.

The areas of question were in the Huffer vs the Turbo, and then Kyle Gilmour threw a wrench in my works by tossing the centrifugal supercharger in the mix. I read all I could find, and asked lots of questions. I love the look of a polished Maggie sitting on top of the motor. but... I saw a Camaro and a Mustang with Kenne Bell's, mehhhh, nice but didn't work for me... I had this vision of a turbo, but didn't want this monstrosity sitting under the hood with a plumbers nightmare of tubing.... so, whatthe heck... Ok, lets do this backwards...find a builder, and get some serious recommendations.

I talked to everyone in the area, other than builders. I told all who would listen I would pretty much go anywhere for the right builder. One name kept popping up, but no, it's not a big name shop... I've never heard of him... and then my brother starts talking about a neighbor of his. This guy has a Vette that is crazy bad. My brother calls him Corvette Charlie... Every time Chevy came out with a factory Vette with more HP, CC had to run back to this shop and demand more power... He finally got the the point that shop owner said no..."I will not build more power until you let me get into the block and build it to sustain the power..."

That spoke huge volumes to me... A shop that could easily make money and sit back on the "I told you so" excuse, but no, he would not take money even though CC wanted to spend it...

Why, as it was told to me is I do not build trailer queens, and I do not want your car or any others I build trailered in due to poor build effort.

I think I had found a place I wanted to deal with... and the bonus was that this was to be his first 2010 Camaro "big" build, and he is excited about it..

Corey has been building Corvettes for years and is considered a top notch LS motor guy by the people that know him...

I walked in for the first time to actually meet Corey, and we hit if off right away. We talked about my desires and he talked about reality... yeah I had the big eyes... by this time, I had pretty much decided I wanted a twin turbo kit, and I had more or less made up in my mind which kit I wanted... He wasn't too keen on the idea at first, as he hadn't seen much he was impressed with thus far... I told him of the two kits I had narrowed it down to and let him decide if either of them were worthwhile looking.

Like me, he was blown away by the TTI Twins kit. He looked at the other kit as well, but kept going back to TTI.

This is where it got interesting, he started going off on ideas... the ultimate sleeper, custom this, custom that, down the road, etc... I think for a little while, he was more excited than I was...Not...

We spent the next month and a half planning and discussing this build. At first, we were going to sleeve my LS-3 and then it was decided to go with an LS-2 427, and now it's still in the air. I met with him yesterday, and set up a drop off appointment. He is ordering the parts, and the availability of the machine shop will determine the final block configuration.

So... we are building a complete short block, all forged rotating internals, crank, rods, and pistons. He has selected a Cam, valves, lifters etc.... There are quite a few pages of parts. The heads will be completely worked, with new valves, springs etc, the block will be studded. The fuel system will be completely redone with a dual fuel pump system, and there is a 3" inch exhaust system from the Turbo's out the back.

I am ordering the axles and he will order the clutch... All of this is in preparation for the install and boost cranking of the TTI Twin Turbo Kit.

We are going to order thekit with 10 lb waste gate springs, since we can as much as double the boost with an e-controller. Rather than limiting ourselves with a 7 lb spring set up to 14 lbs max boost, we will start with 10 lb springs and be able to double it to 20 if things ever progress to that point...

Corey is figuring we can go to around 13 or 14 lbs of boost before we start running out of fuel.... Time will tell...

Out initial goal is for about 750 to 800 at the wheels, but those are just numbers,,, the proof is in the pudding and in the trap times and speeds...

Corey did describe to me 800 RWHP in this car is going to be really wild... He said, it will eithe go like hell, or go into the ditch at a hundred miles an hour, backwards... like, instantly... hmmm,

Any driving instructors out there for hire.... I may need a little help...

The Shop, is Henderson Performance in New Braunfels Texas.
The block is being prepped and built by ERL,
The Twins are from Precision
TTI Provided the Intercooler and Boost pipes
Exhaust from Magna Flow,
Axles still up in the air...
Clutch, up in the air...

More to follow...

Thanks Again to all who have stopped in....
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:52 PM   #26
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My wife went with me to her first Camaro gathering and she was looking around at other cars. She would ask me questions about parts on other cars and I would either explain what I knew, or ask the owner of the particular car she was looking at to explain it.

She was particularly taken by a Roto-Fab CAI and radiator cover... Cha-Ching.... Guess what my next mod was...We have a member in San Antonio that gets real good deals on stuff and so via him, I placed an order and within a week, I was back in my shop spraying color on the radiator cover. The install was straight forward, and took no time at all....

I'm really hoping that the radiator cover will be able to stay on the car after Brandi delivers the Twins... We are thinking it will, but time will tell... I may have to do some minor fabricating to reshape it a little, but thats nothing...Have cutter, will travel...

And.... until now, other than a few shows, thats about it.... for mods.

Well, last night, I put a set of Eibach lowering springs on her with the able assistance of Joe, Racer778. Thanks Joe...

So, on to now.....
Robert, glad you decided to start a BUILD thread. I havent as of yet but have so many mods now it would go on forever
It was a pleasure helping you with one of your mods, and thank the misses again for dinner(you don't mention her name in your threads so I won't). Satch of course is always a character, great personality and BIG heart. He gets it from his owners. If you have not met Robert and his wife, they are two of the most considerate, kind, passionate and generous people you would ever meet. I met Robert at a car show awhile ago and he invited me to his house that day after only 2 hours of conversation. Anyway this is about his BUILD thread but I wanted everyone to know a little about Robert and his family. KEEP THE UPDATES COMING!!!
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:24 PM   #28
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I am glad to see this thread.I have followed your engine cover mods from what seems like way back.Yea I also have been drooling over the twin turbo set up that you are doing.I believe it is top notch and cant wait to see the installation completed and the road test results.I showed this set up to my wife several times to get her buy in too the possibility of going this route.All I get are & sarcastic comments.Oh well I will keep trying & maybe just maybe ,one day she will give in.Your a very lucky fella,and you know it! Congrats
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Old 01-08-2011, 02:47 AM   #30
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Ok, I stopped by the shop today and spoke with my builder. He said thee engine builders have started on my LS-3 block that will be sleeved, and have all the good forged rotating internals. He told me the heads will be going to the machine shop on Monday, and to go ahead and keep my car until Thursday or Friday since we dont need to tear it apart to get started. He knows I'm headed for Brazil, and told me to drive it while I'm here... Way cool since the work has already started...

I went to TGIFridays in San Antonio for our regular Friday night hang, and had a blast, at least until the cedar pollen blew in... peeps were sneezing, loosing their voices and coughing to beat the band... Fortunately it didn't bother me until I was leaving and closed my hood and the layer of pollen looked like the car had been in a dust storm... WOW...

I'll drop Brandi off Thursday, and leave for Brazil Saturday, so it shouldn't hurt too much...

My builder will be adding my car to the customers build page as well as seending me some pics so I'll be able to keep up with whats going on.... He will also be sending me e-mail updates so that will help also...

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They may have the short block ready before you leave?
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They may have the short block ready before you leave?
Nah, I doubt it but thats ok. I figure by the time they get it built, and shipped and what not, I'll be in Brazil for a couple of days or so, but maybe not, I may get to see it before I leave...
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What bore/stroke cu. in. did you decide on?
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What bore/stroke cu. in. did you decide on?
It'll still be a 427, I believe, just with an LS-3 block rather than an LS-2. I'll post that up when I know absolutely for certain... as well as a few of the other things still a little in the air....
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