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Old 01-13-2011, 10:32 PM   #222
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I'm hard pressed to come up with what they would call it other than Z/28. And I'm really confused as the why. The "HP" model will have a minimum of 550hp. I can't really believe GM is going to come out with a third Camaro model that tops the "HP" model. The only reason that I can think of, is maybe their waiting on the new alpha based car to use the Z/28 name on.

This is what I'm talking about.
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:38 PM   #223
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Guys, high performance, is what they call it in the inside......
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:38 PM   #224
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Wow, alright, now here's a hot topic. That's what I'm talking about!!!!!

Before I proceed, I just want to state that my following few sentences are meant to be written in the most respectful demeanor and tone. With that being said I begin. Disregard the first four paragraphs if you don't have time, or not interested in a rant.

I just want to get something out of my chest. It irks me to see a lot of 5th Gen owners trying to keep their mileage down, and trade up for the Z/28 or HP Edition/what-have-you ... I know, I know ... To each his own.

However, I put 14,200+ miles on mine. Had her 10 months and 1 day now (delivered March 13th, 2010 - a day never to be forgotten). Out of those ten months, I drove her for about 8, or just short of that amount. The total amount of miles has stayed the same since I put her ("Sexy" Lexie Black SSRS - No mods yet) in my buddy's garage.

I bought the car because I'm a FANATIC! I love her soooo much, that I'm going to drive her any chance I get. I live in Jersey, and although I've got well over 300,000+ miles under my belt and feel comfortable with driving in the snow with a FR vehicle; I simply am too proud an owner and most definitely extremely lucky & fortunate to have another car to beat on during winter.

My point is that, I understand that we all want to have the car for as long as possible in the best shape possible. But please, do yourself and the car a favor ... Enjoy your life and your BEAST while you can. I can die a very happy man right this second because I've enjoyed my family, friends, and all my toys as much as possible. But I digress!

Plenty of people have touched on the moniker/new name issue, and I don't really care enough to repeat most of what other people have already posted. In my opinion, Z/28 should just never be killed. However, this is how progress happens, so if GM decides to kill the Z/28 badge, it would not turn me away from the Camaro any less. Perhaps it's because I'm a technology geek, and have gotten used to all the name changes, i.e.; computers, phones, etc.

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but hey ... It is what it is. Here's my $0.02 though ... VCT (Variable Cam Timing), like that on the GT500/Explorer. Catch my drift?

Technology is technology, and if GM wants it badly enough; they'll pay for the patents (if any) necessary to get this technology on their benches and start working with it on perhaps the Alpha, or Z/28. I would bet my lousy paying career, that they have already put this plan in motion. Especially since CAFE is pretty strict as it is.

Let's face the facts here, VCT is AWESOME. No matter who you're rooting for, you can't deny that efficiency is what we all crave. Apple, Microsoft, Google (and others whom I'll spare in the sake of not wasting your time), have all been copying each other for years in the computer world in terms of operating systems, and functionality, etc. This is great if you ask me. Creates competition. Giving us, the consumer, more choices.

In closing, I hope I didn't bore you with my obnoxiously long post. Just have a lot on my mind, but won't take up any more of your time.

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Old 01-13-2011, 10:50 PM   #225
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I would be happy if the just called it supercharged and like it lookes like it say on some of the mules on the fender....save the Z/28 moniker for the smaller engine lighter, road course car that competes with the BOSS 302..why can there be as many levels as the mustang has, (they have Cobra, GT500, Boss 302, GT, etc) just Chevy upping the anty on their part and being better than Fords "signature" cars
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:53 PM   #226
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Hmmmmmmmmm.....

Could it be that the SSX was the HP in cloak and dagger format at SEMA?
No, I think the SSX would actually be the Z/28 in cloak and dagger format (to compete with the Boss) if you go by this theory that the HP model will be a whole new beast.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:02 PM   #227
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I think the HP model is just a code name for now, no real reason to start a whole new model of the camaro when there is the z28 still available.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:12 PM   #228
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I have been waiting but if it is above 46,000.00 way to much money, I'll settle for a 2SS and supercharge it myself and be ahead of the game........................
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:14 PM   #229
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Burying the Z-28 name makes no sense. I can see only one reason why the 2012 model would go into production and be called the HP versus the Z-28. GM is going to pull a Challenger gig. Remember how the first year was all SRTs? Maybe the Gen6 Camaro will be introduced a year early as the Z-28 model only. They could produce 2014 Z-28s on the Gen6 and the rest of the 2014 lineup on the Gen5s.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:18 PM   #230
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I think the HP model is just a code name for now, no real reason to start a whole new model of the camaro when there is the z28 still available.
Yes it is still available, but you can clearly see by the posts from number 3 and fbodfather that they want to get it right and don't want to put a badge on something that is not deserving...if most people just want the power upgrade then who cares what they call it, if they are in fact saving the name for something different
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:21 PM   #231
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If not Z/28, then what.
RS. In use
SS. In use
IROC. GM doesn't own it.
Panther. The Camaro's pre-production name. Not likely.
Z/29. God I hope not.

Don't get me wrong, I will have the top model "alpha platformed" Camaro, no matter what its name is. I'm just trying to figure out what else it could be named.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:34 PM   #232
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OK Fbodfather/Scotty has me thinking that the new HPE Camaro will NOT be named Z28 afterall. I think that this would be a mistake but GM has never listened to me in the past and I do not think that they will listen to me now. From all of the spy photos and leaked information that has been posted on this car, it will be a totally awesome car that could easily live up to the name Z28 and what it represents. I mean really: 556+HP S/C engine. 6 piston Brembo brakes with massive rotors, lowered suspension with Magnetic Ride, 285/330 tires, HUD, Hurst short throw shifter, beefed up IRS, louder tuned exhaust and award winning good looks!! It sounds like a Z28 to me.

That being said, whatever Chevy decides to call the HPE Camaro will be fine with me. I have my preference for Z28 because I always wanted one but a different name will not change my desire to own this car. My deposit has been with my dealer for many months now anticipating this car whatever it is going to be called. Chevy is building this car with all of the good things I would build it with if I could just pull the items off of the shelf and put them on the assembly line. The car will be beautiful as much as it will be brutal and a pure delight to drive, no matter what its name will be. Thank you Team Camaro for doing a wonderful job, I know the car will be great.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:42 PM   #233
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If not Z/28, then what.
RS. In use
SS. In use
IROC. GM doesn't own it.
Panther. The Camaro's pre-production name. Not likely.
Z/29. God I hope not.

Don't get me wrong, I will have the top model "alpha platformed" Camaro, no matter what its name is. I'm just trying to figure out what else it could be named.[/QUOTE]

How about Camaro? the fender on some of the spy photos sure as heck looks like it says "supercharged" it may just be as simple as that...
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If not Z/28, then what.
RS. In use
SS. In use
IROC. GM doesn't own it.
Panther. The Camaro's pre-production name. Not likely.
Z/29. God I hope not.


I am going to guess: Camaro BFH - Bat From Hell
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:05 AM   #235
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As I just mentioned in another post - everything --- every little detail - is scrutinized by the team......in all my years, I've never seen such passion (other than perhaps the Corvette team) for the product. We are custodians of the brand and we take this responsibility very seriously.

I see the minute details that Al and the Engineering group work thru -- taking as much time as necessary - so that the car will be right and that it will be something you can be immeasurably proud of.

Many years ago - all manufacturers 'just assembled it' - and the result wasn't acceptable.

This is a thread that is going to be very visible - and so I say to you that no matter what the car is called -- some will love the name - others will not. I'm just hopeful that once the car hits the streets, people will come together over whatever nameplate is used - and know that the Camaro Team put their everything into this great automobile.

One last thing: We are in the 21st century. CAFE for 2016 is 35.5mpg for the fleet - that includes Suburbans and Impalas and Silverados -- and the Administration in Washington is talking about raising CAFE to greater than 50mpg by 2021........

..........so anyone thinking that there will be a high performance V8 for a very inexpensive price - is going to be disappointed.

That said: The Camaro is still a Chevrolet -meaning that it will give more value than expected.




Let the discussion continue!





thanks for the response! I'm just sick of waiting, thankfully I have my Vette to hold me over

and I was obviously kidding about the Mustang part
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get ready to pay $55,000+ for this....
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:14 AM   #237
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Just SC Camaro. Possible. But that would be more likely if they just dropped a blower on top of the stock engine. This car is much more. Different engine, SC, mr, etc...
IMHO, GM has spent too much money on R/D to not give it it's own name.
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:30 AM   #238
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If your going to pay $55,000.00 then go buy a Vet. There won't be many sold at the price. Take the difference of $37,000.00 and $55 and put it into a 2SS/RS and you'd blow the paint off any Z or Vet.
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