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Old 01-14-2011, 02:30 AM   #251
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Well I had my wife talked into trading up to the new Z/28-HP for a couple of weeks, till I showed her what the car payment might be...

I hope it doesn't show up at 50k..
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:31 AM   #252
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As a side, I'm not a big fan of the engine vents. I think they should have had a functional scoop that looks like the SLP's, or an engine window. Or top it all and do a factory shaker hood.
With you on that one, I prefer the SLP/Transformers 2 style hood, to the renderings I've seen on here from the prototype pics...

Maybe I'll just have to order an extra hood
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:37 AM   #253
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With you on that one, I prefer the SLP/Transformers 2 style hood, to the renderings I've seen on here from the prototype pics...

Maybe I'll just have to order an extra hood
Hey, it wouldn't be a muscle car if you didn't add your own personal touch, right?
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:38 AM   #254
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Interesting info in here. I will believe it when I hear it from Fbod, though. Or it is actually at a car show.

PS: I can't stop laughing at you guys for complaining about the car maybe costing 50K.
You should check out gmcanada.com and do the build and price on a 2SS.
I know MOST Canadians got very close to (Or over in my case) 50K for a 2SS.

God, I sure hope the fact that the Canadian dollar has been at or VERY near parity with the U.S. greenback for almost 2 years now is gonna start trickling into the MSRP by 2012, cause I am looking at probably 70K for this 'HP' Edition
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:30 AM   #255
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You can name it the "supercharged Hello Kitty edition" if you want I don't care ... just bring the horses!

Ok Punk_rider, just to be clear here. You would take a pink "supercharged Hello Kitty edition" with all the Hello Kitty badging and pink fuzzy interior???






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Interesting info in here. I will believe it when I hear it from Fbod, though. Or it is actually at a car show.

PS: I can't stop laughing at you guys for complaining about the car maybe costing 50K.
You should check out gmcanada.com and do the build and price on a 2SS.
I know MOST Canadians got very close to (Or over in my case) 50K for a 2SS.

God, I sure hope the fact that the Canadian dollar has been at or VERY near parity with the U.S. greenback for almost 2 years now is gonna start trickling into the MSRP by 2012, cause I am looking at probably 70K for this 'HP' Edition
So did you read his posts in this thread?
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:28 AM   #257
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Interesting info in here. I will believe it when I hear it from Fbod, though. Or it is actually at a car show.

PS: I can't stop laughing at you guys for complaining about the car maybe costing 50K.
You should check out gmcanada.com and do the build and price on a 2SS.
I know MOST Canadians got very close to (Or over in my case) 50K for a 2SS.

God, I sure hope the fact that the Canadian dollar has been at or VERY near parity with the U.S. greenback for almost 2 years now is gonna start trickling into the MSRP by 2012, cause I am looking at probably 70K for this 'HP' Edition

Guess I'll be looking at around 70k too, but convert it to Euro's, especially if I would have to import it myself (and get it EU compliant). And I definitely want it in Sunrise Gold/painted black stripes, so you'd have to add that as well.

Ah well, you only live once
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:06 AM   #258
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Best of both get a conv. z/28
In a 45th anniv. package?!!
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:06 AM   #259
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Hey, it wouldn't be a muscle car if you didn't add your own personal touch, right?
I've never had a "standard" car in my life
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:07 AM   #260
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A little disappointed that it might not be called a Z/28
But still excited about the car coming out.
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:52 AM   #261
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A little disappointed that it might not be called a Z/28
But still excited about the car coming out.
Me too, but it just seems like an odd comment to make since all of us have been expecting the Z28 nameplate.

Then again, maybe he just enjoys watching us chase our tails
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:05 AM   #262
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I am surprised about the magnetic ride suspension, I really thought the cost would be prohibitive on this car. I can't imagine them having two levels of Z28 (or whatever) but who knows. I am more interested to see what other options or improvements appear for the SS, as the Z28 will be out of my price range. Hopefully they ditch the AFM and bump the LS3 to about 460 hp for A6&M6 versions.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:36 AM   #263
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This is the way I see it on price. GM was not concerned in pricing the Camaro below the Mustang or Challenger. Ford sells every GT500 that they make and they are still hard to buy, IF you want to pay under MSRP for them. So WHY in the world would GM sell the Supercharged Camaro for less than the GT500?

If they price it at 45k like some of you crazy people think, They will sell way to many of them, these cars are going to drink gas and have a negative impact on GM in that area. A GT500 with the performance pack is around 55K. I see no way that this car is going to cost less than that.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:02 AM   #264
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OK Fbodfather/Scotty has me thinking that the new HPE Camaro will NOT be named Z28 afterall. I think that this would be a mistake but GM has never listened to me in the past and I do not think that they will listen to me now. From all of the spy photos and leaked information that has been posted on this car, it will be a totally awesome car that could easily live up to the name Z28 and what it represents. I mean really: 556+HP S/C engine. 6 piston Brembo brakes with massive rotors, lowered suspension with Magnetic Ride, 285/330 tires, HUD, Hurst short throw shifter, beefed up IRS, louder tuned exhaust and award winning good looks!! It sounds like a Z28 to me.

That being said, whatever Chevy decides to call the HPE Camaro will be fine with me. I have my preference for Z28 because I always wanted one but a different name will not change my desire to own this car. My deposit has been with my dealer for many months now anticipating this car whatever it is going to be called. Chevy is building this car with all of the good things I would build it with if I could just pull the items off of the shelf and put them on the assembly line. The car will be beautiful as much as it will be brutal and a pure delight to drive, no matter what its name will be. Thank you Team Camaro for doing a wonderful job, I know the car will be great.
Your thoughts are sound Jedi, reading inbetween the lines of what has been said by those in the know leads me to come to the same conclusion. I am right there with you! It's hopefully just the ala cart option for this current body style that I have been hoping for, the HP upgrade with the associated performance package(s).
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:08 AM   #265
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As for the 2012 Camaro generally, the 45th anniversary edition (which we discussed here) will be for both coupe and convertible models. It will come in carbon flash color with all black interior and unique wheels.
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If not Z/28, then what.

Panther. The Camaro's pre-production name. Not likely.
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What about the ZL-1? Not only does the name have heritage, but is also above the SS brand in terms of the hierarchy.

You know I wonder. At one time the Panther name that was almost the name for the Camaro was considered as a designation for the RPO Z-28 equipped Camaros as they weren't sure what to call them. It was only after their marketing guys had done some artwork making the Z/28 badge did they decided to go with that in mid '68 (early production '68 Z's did not have Z/28 emblems/badges).

ZL1 sort of make sense. That was for sure the BIG DOG of first gens. Also I imagine this new supercharged Camaro will have somewhat limited production like the original ZL1's, but not near as limited of course.

And those 45th anniversary "carbon flash color with all black interior and unique wheels", if those wheels are dark colored doesn't that just sound like a black panther waiting to pounce on and devour something like say a Mustang?!?!??!?
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The price is scaring me.

Exactly the reason I left Corvettes and will never buy another new Vette. The C5 Vettes were blue collar affordable. I bought an incredible '04 C5 Z06 for mid 40's. Then the C6's hit, and the prices shot through the roof.

Hoping for under < 50, if not will just go with tons of aftermarket mods for my SS.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:19 AM   #267
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The price is scaring me.

Exactly the reason I left Corvettes and will never buy another new Vette. The C5 Vettes were blue collar affordable. I bought an incredible '04 C5 Z06 for mid 40's. Then the C6's hit, and the prices shot through the roof.

Hoping for under < 50, if not will just go with tons of aftermarket mods for my SS.
No way will it be under 50. I see $50k as the minimum starting point.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:27 AM   #268
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has had it for a few years. In the Vette it is the F55 option. Switch allows you to change the suspension. i.e Touring or Sport. I have it on my C6 and I believe it is stock on the ZR1
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:56 AM   #269
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i actually find it a-ok to be 50 grand, really doesnt bother me at all, it should be around that pricing, i still had no idea why people think it would be any less than a gt500..smh... im still going to trade up
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Your thoughts are sound Jedi, reading inbetween the lines of what has been said by those in the know leads me to come to the same conclusion. I am right there with you! It's hopefully just the ala cart option for this current body style that I have been hoping for, the HP upgrade with the associated performance package(s).
This reminds me of a great Shakespeare line, "What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet."

regardless what it is called It will be a beast of a machine, a hell of a ride, Mustang Dominator, and I can't wait for it to become a convertible
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I would be happy if the just called it supercharged and like it lookes like it say on some of the mules on the fender....save the Z/28 moniker for the smaller engine lighter, road course car that competes with the BOSS 302..why can there be as many levels as the mustang has, (they have Cobra, GT500, Boss 302, GT, etc) just Chevy upping the anty on their part and being better than Fords "signature" cars
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It makes sense to leave the more agile, nimble and lighter alpha platform for the true Z/28 name. After all, it is supposed to be more of a road-race car than just a heavy cruiser. A smart move by GM, if you ask me.
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You know I wonder. At one time the Panther name that was almost the name for the Camaro was considered as a designation for the RPO Z-28 equipped Camaros as they weren't sure what to call them. It was only after their marketing guys had done some artwork making the Z/28 badge did they decided to go with that in mid '68 (early production '68 Z's did not have Z/28 emblems/badges).

ZL1 sort of make sense. That was for sure the BIG DOG of first gens. Also I imagine this new supercharged Camaro will have somewhat limited production like the original ZL1's, but not near as limited of course.

And those 45th anniversary "carbon flash color with all black interior and unique wheels", if those wheels are dark colored doesn't that just sound like a black panther waiting to pounce on and devour something like say a Mustang?!?!??!?
Z/28 was available as a 67'
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I'm sure things at GM are changing based on competition in the marketplace. They need a top dog Camaro to win the Muscle Car Wars. ZL1 maybe ZL2? It will reign supreme, probably high $50's my guess. But the Z28 is for the so called masses, it should be more affordable. I like the idea of a super Camaro, but I'll buy an affordable Z28.
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It makes sense to leave the more agile, nimble and lighter alpha platform for the true Z/28 name. After all, it is supposed to be more of a road-race car than just a heavy cruiser. A smart move by GM, if you ask me.
Yea, I believe in this theory. I think GM will introduce a smaller V8 (5 liter) DOHC in the Z-28. Maybe the Gen6 car isn't too far off.
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