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Old 01-14-2011, 09:34 AM   #276
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Based on simply reading magazines like Motor Trend, Autoweek etc it appears IMHO I agree with some posters that with suspension it appears to be a CTS-V version muscle car. My question is wouldn't that likely make it to MSRP in the 55,000-60,000 range? (esp if an automatic version is an option). Seems like 45,000-50,000 seems low...
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:35 AM   #277
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If you think about this it really makes alot of sense now. This new 2012 High HP Editon is going to be named something else & will be the competitor to the Shelby GT500 & the new Z/28 will eventually come out & be what it is suppossed to be a Boss 302 killer that carves through tracks with ease. We may not see the Z/28 until the beginning of the new lighter chassis in 2014. I just don't want to see this new HP Edition Camaro to get beat by the Shelby I have a feeling the Shelby will be producing 600hp by the time this is released in 1-1-2012.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:42 AM   #278
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Right back atcha, Francisco...thanks for the mention!!!


I'm with you 100% with enjoying our Camaros...mine is a yr round daily driver...I don't have a spare car to drive in the winter

That being said, we purchased snow tires and 18" wheels last winter, so this is my 2nd winter with the Camaro

If I couldn't drive my Camaro all yr long, I wouldn't be able to do any 'smiley dances' :(

Fortunately, that's not the case, so I'm happy every time I get behind the wheel and turn the key to the happiest car I have ever owned and driven IN MY LIFE!!!

I wouldn't sell mine for all the money in the world, because my HWAY STR means way more to me than money...it is irreplaceable to 'this fan' for too many reasons to list on here right now...just trust me on this


Your right! This new car has the most mileage than any of our other camaros! we have so much fun driving this car! we would never sell our car, we would just add to the fleet!
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:43 AM   #279
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Maybe they should call this GT500 fighter the Panther Performance Camaro ZL-1 or something along those lines. I think it would be kool to have a Panther emblem on the Bow Tie & on the back of the car like where the SS & RS emblems are right now. I think another manufacturer has the rights to the ZL-1 name right now if im not mistaken though.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:47 AM   #280
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Yeah they should call this the Panther Performance Camaro and have a panther emblem on the front grill where the SS & RS emblems go & on the back of the car. This along with the more agressive hood & body would make it stand out more than an SS.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:02 AM   #281
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CAMARO MONGOOSE EDITION That'll get those Cobra guys' attention
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:04 AM   #282
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:15 AM   #283
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Maybe they should call this GT500 fighter the Panther Performance Camaro ZL-1 or something along those lines. I think it would be kool to have a Panther emblem on the Bow Tie & on the back of the car like where the SS & RS emblems are right now. I think another manufacturer has the rights to the ZL-1 name right now if im not mistaken though.
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Yeah they should call this the Panther Performance Camaro and have a panther emblem on the front grill where the SS & RS emblems go & on the back of the car. This along with the more agressive hood & body would make it stand out more than an SS.

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Old 01-14-2011, 10:53 AM   #284
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Whats that about?? what else should they call it??? LOL
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:23 AM   #285
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Based on simply reading magazines like Motor Trend, Autoweek etc it appears IMHO I agree with some posters that with suspension it appears to be a CTS-V version muscle car. My question is wouldn't that likely make it to MSRP in the 55,000-60,000 range? (esp if an automatic version is an option). Seems like 45,000-50,000 seems low...
Bingo, that seems to be the general concensus on the price range 55K or so.....
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:33 AM   #286
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So what's a '12 Z28/RS/45th anniversary gonna cost?
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:37 AM   #287
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Maybe they should call this GT500 fighter the Panther Performance Camaro ZL-1 or something along those lines. I think it would be kool to have a Panther emblem on the Bow Tie & on the back of the car like where the SS & RS emblems are right now. I think another manufacturer has the rights to the ZL-1 name right now if im not mistaken though.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:38 AM   #288
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Z/28 was available as a 67'
Who said they weren't? Yes RPO Z-28 was available in '67 and 602 were built. The point was it was just and RPO code until early/mid '68 when it was decided to officially give it the Z/28 name from the RPO code and they started putting Z/28 emblems on the cars.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:43 AM   #289
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So did you read his posts in this thread?
Yep, I did read his (Fbodfather's) posts, and they are very good at confirming nothing while suggesting everything.

I am waiting for a black and white official statement from GM. Not saying all of this stuff isn't true, just saying I am sick of this cat and mouse game and won't get excited about something that is a year away at least.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:50 AM   #290
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This reminds me of a great Shakespeare line, "What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet."

regardless what it is called It will be a beast of a machine, a hell of a ride, Mustang Dominator, and I can't wait for it to become a convertible
Hi Eric, you might find this interesting. I have been sooo excited about this HPE information to the point that I couldn't contain myself any longer. I ran over to to my closest Chevy dealer this morning and had a heart to heart chat with a seasoned salesman. I told him about the info disseminated at the National Chevy Dealers meeting that Becky gave us yesterday. I did not discuss the venue or the sources and remained vague about same and assured him it was from the horse's mouth. I told him of all the details as presented to us here. He was surprised and unaware of any news or word from GM about the new options and/or HPE model for the 2012 Camaro. He said the following:He has a contact person in corporate from GM and he will see what he could find out. Chevy does plan on model production based to a degree on the consumers queries and intent to buy prior to production. Camaro inquries and promises to purchase the 2010 model ahead of the order taking date were huge. Only 20,000 units of the convertible will be made based on these projections. I told him I wanted to be in on the ground floor with the dealership and sit down with them and order a HPE when it becomes ready for ordering in case it is a dealer allotment initial order. As in the past this will probably be the case. I gave him all my information, he wrote it up, and I will check back later on. No list, deposit or promise other than he will work with me to get one. I hope GM is ramping up production for 6.2L S/C engines...heh..heh...!!
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:12 PM   #291
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Yep, I did read his (Fbodfather's) posts, and they are very good at confirming nothing while suggesting everything.

I am waiting for a black and white official statement from GM. Not saying all of this stuff isn't true, just saying I am sick of this cat and mouse game and won't get excited about something that is a year away at least.
.....old quotation...."He who hesitates is lost", another one:....."the early bird gets the worm", one more:..."you snooze, you lose". I for one know good info when I see it and am not waiting for anything. I am doing my best to be on the initial order. This HPE is happening and will up for order by this fall. The car will be out there for all of us to see soon.....real soon. It's all marketing. Not cat and mouse. It's very interesting being the potential consumer and watching this all unfold before our eyes. The leaks, the testing, the staged spy photo's....worst kept "secret" stuff...yadda yadda yadda. It's fun, it's intriguing, it's part truth, part theater, part rumor. It's reality TV. I love it. It's kinda like going on that long road vacation trip in the car. The drama, the anticipation of the fun ahead, the wonder of it all. Sometimes the journey getting there is more fun than the actual destination. Thanks Chevy and all those who have made this coming 2012 production model. A special thanks to Becky and FBodfather. Buckle your seat belts folks.......
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:27 PM   #292
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I'm not really snoozing or losing when you can't even officially order the car yet. My sales manager knows I want one and will call me when the time comes.

When we were all waiting for the 2010 to first come out, news changed on a weekly basis. (Not the real headlights, the ABL controversy, What does CGM look like on a production car, why is summit white gonna take till summer) And even lately with the convertible: There was so much uproar over how ugly the whip antenna was that the modified the spoiler to hide it in there.

All I am saying is I have been to this dance a few times now and am not going to get worked up over anything until it has the GM letterhead on it.
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:37 PM   #293
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Whats that about?? what else should they call it??? LOL

Something besides the Panther Performance Camaro (or any other cheesy animal name)? We don't need an animal name to compete with the snake, especially with a picture of a panther in the bowtie.

To each their own I guess, but I'd guess it'll be called a Z something or another if it doesn't get the Z/28 nameplate.
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:51 PM   #294
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Something besides the Panther Performance Camaro (or any other cheesy animal name)? We don't need an animal name to compete with the snake, especially with a picture of a panther in the bowtie.

To each their own I guess, but I'd guess it'll be called a Z something or another if it doesn't get the Z/28 nameplate.
What about an image of a Cobra, wrapped around a Mongoose, that has the head of the snake in it's mouth, pulling it's head off it's body?... okay - that's not a good idea, but I like the image in my head
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:54 PM   #295
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For those with nothing good to say (no - you don't have to drink the Koolaid), or can't help themselves from being rude: POST SOMEWHERE ELSE. If you can care less about Z28/HPE - fine. This thread isn't about hating, though. No more warnings...
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:54 PM   #296
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What no Z/28! My dealer has some explaining to do.
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:57 PM   #297
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it really is a shame gm is so slow its unreal to me i guess i'm the only one ?
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:58 PM   #298
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it really is a shame gm is so slow its unreal to me i guess i'm the only one ?
Are you going to beat this to death? Considering the hardships GM's gone through, I'd say, "NO". I think this horse is dead.
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dude nobodys is hating lol calm down u can honestly tell me your pumped about a car that might come out over a year from now.....? wow
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dude nobodys is hating lol calm down u can honestly tell me your pumped about a car that might come out over a year from now.....? wow
More pumped than you can appreciate. Almost all your posts regarding this are dark. If you're happy with your SS - FINE. If you have no interest in Z28/HPE - FINE. Why can't anyone have any enthusiasm over this; just because you don't? Please...
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