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Old 02-04-2009, 05:16 PM   #15
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the v6 is doing 0-60 in 6.2, my prelude is around the same area.



i need something faster. The v6 camaro is not going to be enough.
a few mods here and there and you'd be surprised.
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the v6 is doing 0-60 in 6.2, my prelude is around the same area.



i need something faster. The v6 camaro is not going to be enough.
Nobody really needs anything faster, they may want something faster ....

Any modern engine if taken care of and not abused would have no problem reaching 200K miles easily. the SS would be a great every day driver I wouldn''t worry about reliability problems, it DOES have a 100K powertrain warrenty on it....
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:20 PM   #17
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If you want high horsepower, naturally aspirated, lower displacement you mean you like DOHC engines. If that's your thing, GM doesn't do that on a V8, but DOHC isn't all roses as they weigh more and takes up more space per liter of displacement.

IF what you care about are just two numbers HP/displacement and being naturally aspirated Honda's F22C1 does have nice numbers but as a total package it's fairly mediocre by modern standards. The power curve is weak, and it's less fuel efficient at 18/25 vs 19/28 for similiarly weighted cars (S2000 vs Solstice GXP, so slight weight and extra gear advantage for the Honda actually), it just doesn't keep up with GM's 2.0T or several other modern 4's.


the s2000 is a decade old. it was beyond impressive back in 1999. give it some credit. its a good engine
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:21 PM   #18
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From honda website (http://automobiles.honda.com/s2000/performance.aspx) re: 2009 S200: "The S2000 sports a powerful, 2.2-liter" and "Are you ready for 237 hp at 7800 rpm and 162 lb-ft of torque at 6800 rpm?"

No wonder it gets not so great gas mileage. You have to have that thing howling to get and power out of it. What do you drop the clutch at to launch this thing? 6000 RPM?
It doesn't sound like they are "10 years ahead of GM in the 4 cylinder category", It sounds like they took one of their motorbike engines and put it in a car.

Cobalt SS is 260hp@5300 and 260lb/ft @ 2000. Which is at least in the practically useable range.

And on the topic of reliability, I can't see something that has to be revved to almost 8000 RPM lasting terribly long. But maybe they do. I stopped being interested in the S2000 when I found out about it's piddly torque.
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the v6 is doing 0-60 in 6.2, my prelude is around the same area.



i need something faster. The v6 camaro is not going to be enough.
Doesn't a prelude do 0-60 in 7 or 8 seconds?
Anyway, why exactly would you want a smaller displacement engine? Do you and torque not get along well?
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a few mods here and there and you'd be surprised.
few mods on the prelude and you would be surprised too
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once again, it's impressive cause it's always been expensive...


lots of r/d work = more hp = higher price.

you love the engine so much, go get an s2000.
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few mods on the prelude and you would be surprised too
Then stick with the prelude?
idk what you're getting at.
LS3 is a good motor. Probably run 150 thousand miles before you run into problems if you treat it right.
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Doesn't a prelude do 0-60 in 7 or 8 seconds?
Anyway, why exactly would you want a smaller displacement engine? Do you and torque not get along well?


usdm preludes do 0-60 from 6.5- 6.8



i have the jdm type s engine and i get around 6.0-6.3


its not that i want a smaller displacement engine, it just have a few questions when a ford engine can get 400 horses with 5.0 and gm with 6.2 of displacement
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Do you and torque not get along well?
Yeah, that's what I don't get. If you are really concerned about speed, torque is what's really gonna get you going fast. Horsepower is a great number, but torque gives you an idea of how quick you are gonna get to that speed.


And is this new 400 hp 5.0 actually in any vehicle yet?
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once again, it's impressive cause it's always been expensive...


lots of r/d work = more hp = higher price.

you love the engine so much, go get an s2000.




i have had too many 4 cylinders, need something different. i have to have a v8. need to try something new
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Then stick with the prelude?
idk what you're getting at.
LS3 is a good motor. Probably run 150 thousand miles before you run into problems if you treat it right.



im sure it is, and the warranty backs it up.



but what if gm dies? is that warranty still good?
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i have had too many 4 cylinders, need something different. i have to have a v8. need to try something new
Then get an SS and I'm sure you'll be happy. It'll be a bit quicker than the prelude.
There's nothing wrong with the LS3, it's just a different kind of motor than ford's modular engines.
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Yeah, that's what I don't get. If you are really concerned about speed, torque is what's really gonna get you going fast. Horsepower is a great number, but torque gives you an idea of how quick you are gonna get to that speed.


And is this new 400 hp 5.0 actually in any vehicle yet?



i think the mustang is getting it next year.
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