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Old 02-02-2011, 11:58 PM   #35
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Old 02-03-2011, 12:17 AM   #36
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You'll also attain harmony with the universe and world peace.

I would highly recommend using a Pedders Street Xa that includes urethane inserts for the sub-frame and radius bushes. This adds stability to the foundation of your 5th Gen so you can take full advantage of the Xa coilovers. Pedders packages are discounted. In this case, the bushes are almost free.
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Old 02-03-2011, 12:20 AM   #37
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I love my Xa's. I'm at max drop out back and have 10mm between the lock rings up front. I can't go any lower out back...Justice Pete says that my OEM heights were about 10mm higher than average (693mm front, 700 mm rear), which would explain why my car sits a bit higher in the rear with the coilovers fully adjusted down. I think I'm going to go ahead and take the fronts down all the way until the rings are touching.



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Old 02-03-2011, 12:30 AM   #38
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Then again, you might have a skewed line of sight, being short and all...


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Go take another picture of your fronts after the Maggie install

I have the Pfadt springs and the Maggie as well. Front dropped almost 2" from stock with the springs and the S\C.
635 mm is where it sits now. Pedders calls that a maximum drop WITH coilovers.

I picked up 600hp-lpe's XA's cause I'm tired of dragging my headers over speedbumps
Hmmmm........ I forgot bout the Maggie wheight with the heat echanger all the coolant and hoses and pump.

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That's another thinig to take into account. weight of the procharger vs. maggie.
True. But it's the rear of your car that looks so much stealthier than mine in the pics.
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:48 AM   #39
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How much better are the supercar coilovers to the Xa. Are Xa fine for agressive street fun?
On the street, the XA's are a lot of fun. You can set the height where you want them. Playing with the dampening, hard/soft - 30 positions, is a bonus. Set them hard when you want to play. set them soft when you have a date.

The XA's are made for aggressive street driving. You would love them compared to the stock setup. They are like having really good sex, and leaving you extremely satisfied, wanting more of what they offer.

The supercar shocks are like having an orgy. They will please you to no end. You just can't get enough...
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:10 AM   #40
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On the street, the XA's are a lot of fun. You can set the height where you want them. Playing with the dampening, hard/soft - 30 positions, is a bonus. Set them hard when you want to play. set them soft when you have a date.

The XA's are made for aggressive street driving. You would love them compared to the stock setup. They are like having really good sex, and leaving you extremely satisfied, wanting more of what they offer.

The supercar shocks are like having an orgy. They will please you to no end. You just can't get enough...
they need to copy and paste that description to the Pedders website!
perfect!

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Old 02-03-2011, 09:41 AM   #41
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On the street, the XA's are a lot of fun. You can set the height where you want them. Playing with the dampening, hard/soft - 30 positions, is a bonus. Set them hard when you want to play. set them soft when you have a date.

The XA's are made for aggressive street driving. You would love them compared to the stock setup. They are like having really good sex, and leaving you extremely satisfied, wanting more of what they offer.

The supercar shocks are like having an orgy. They will please you to no end. You just can't get enough...
This my friend is signature worthy!!!
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:13 AM   #42
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ROFL!!!!

You need to show Rob your new signature..
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:51 AM   #43
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On the street, the XA's are a lot of fun. You can set the height where you want them. Playing with the dampening, hard/soft - 30 positions, is a bonus. Set them hard when you want to play. set them soft when you have a date.

The XA's are made for aggressive street driving. You would love them compared to the stock setup. They are like having really good sex, and leaving you extremely satisfied, wanting more of what they offer.

The supercar shocks are like having an orgy. They will please you to no end. You just can't get enough...
Dan,

Can I quote you on this?
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:51 AM   #44
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Hey now! If it wasn't for my thread, the signature would've probably never been made! I deserve sommmmme credit. haha

So basically would I notice the difference between the Xa's and Supercar's during aggressive street use (not track use)?
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:10 AM   #45
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Hey now! If it wasn't for my thread, the signature would've probably never been made! I deserve sommmmme credit. haha

So basically would I notice the difference between the Xa's and Supercar's during aggressive street use (not track use)?
No you would feel it all the time. We found the ideal setup to be:

Supercar Track Damper Settings from Full Soft
Front Bound 18
Front Rebound 16
Rear Bound 23
Rear Rebound 16

I use these on the street and the track because I love how light and precise the 4183 pound 5th Gen feels. For daily driving with ridiculous comfort you can use these settings.

Front Bound 8
Front Rebound 6
Rear Bound 10
Rear Rebound 5

Set for the street, our clients report that the ride quality is better than OE. Dan has had both Xa and Supercar coilovers. I don't think that any of our clients that have had both would ever go back to Xas. That is difficult for me to write becuase the Xa coilovers are an excellant product that our clients love on thier 5th Gen, GTO, G8, HHR, Cobalt, G6, Solstice, Sky, mustang, challenger, charger, magnum and 300C.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:36 AM   #46
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No you would feel it all the time. We found the ideal setup to be:

Supercar Track Damper Settings from Full Soft
Front Bound 18
Front Rebound 16
Rear Bound 23
Rear Rebound 16

I use these on the street and the track because I love how light and precise the 4183 pound 5th Gen feels. For daily driving with ridiculous comfort you can use these settings.

Front Bound 8
Front Rebound 6
Rear Bound 10
Rear Rebound 5

Set for the street, our clients report that the ride quality is better than OE. Dan has had both Xa and Supercar coilovers. I don't think that any of our clients that have had both would ever go back to Xas. That is difficult for me to write becuase the Xa coilovers are an excellant product that our clients love on thier 5th Gen, GTO, G8, HHR, Cobalt, G6, Solstice, Sky, mustang, challenger, charger, magnum and 300C.
Grr, I don't have the money for them. :( The Supercar's that is.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:43 AM   #47
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PM me a good price. Possibly a good package with the sway bars too so I can compare.

You never know, you might be able to get me to jump on it.

Possibly a few packages: some with the Xa's and some with the Supercar's for comparison.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:54 AM   #48
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PM me a good price. Possibly a good package with the sway bars too so I can compare.

You never know, you might be able to get me to jump on it.

Possibly a few packages: some with the Xa's and some with the Supercar's for comparison.
No need for PMs. Pedders prices are consistent throughout our Dealer network. Two packages stand out.

1. Street Xa: Xa coilovers, Full Alignment Bolt Kit, EP1200 Sub-frame and EP6578 Radius Bush Inserts Retail for just under $2,000

2. Supercar Street: Supercar coilovers, Full Alignment Bolt Kit, EP1200 Sub-frame and EP6578 Radius Bush Inserts Retail for just under $3,900

3. Solution B 27mm front and rear stab bars along with high efficiency front and rear endlinks. These are just over $600

We package the parts for optimal function. Coilovers, lowering coils, stickier tires, even a CAI all function better when the foundational elements of the vehicle have been upgraded. On the 5th Gen that means sub-frame and radius bushes.

I suggest you install your Street Xa or Supercar Street and live with it for a while. If you still want sways, we can add them later with no duplication of labor.
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Dan,

Can I quote you on this?

Be my guest... LOL
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Grr, I don't have the money for them. :( The Supercar's that is.

you can always upgrade later to the supercar's.

I sold the XA's in 5 minutes on the C5 forum - had 3 people interested rather quickly.
I had them at a decent asking price as they were used. Had I known they were going to go so quickly, I would have sold them for more $$$. I was happy to give a fellow forum member a deal.

I was extremely happy with the XA's, and didn't think the ride would get any better.. til i tried my car with supercar shocks.

I do race my car - a lot - so it was a no brainer to upgrade for me.
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:36 PM   #51
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you can always upgrade later to the supercar's.

I sold the XA's in 5 minutes on the C5 forum - had 3 people interested rather quickly.
I had them at a decent asking price as they were used. Had I known they were going to go so quickly, I would have sold them for more $$$. I was happy to give a fellow forum member a deal.

I was extremely happy with the XA's, and didn't think the ride would get any better.. til i tried my car with supercar shocks.

I do race my car - a lot - so it was a no brainer to upgrade for me.
You guys are killing me. lol Talking me into the supercar's. I always go for the best and it seems like this will be no different.

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No need for PMs. Pedders prices are consistent throughout our Dealer network. Two packages stand out.

1. Street Xa: Xa coilovers, Full Alignment Bolt Kit, EP1200 Sub-frame and EP6578 Radius Bush Inserts Retail for just under $2,000

2. Supercar Street: Supercar coilovers, Full Alignment Bolt Kit, EP1200 Sub-frame and EP6578 Radius Bush Inserts Retail for just under $3,900

3. Solution B 27mm front and rear stab bars along with high efficiency front and rear endlinks. These are just over $600

We package the parts for optimal function. Coilovers, lowering coils, stickier tires, even a CAI all function better when the foundational elements of the vehicle have been upgraded. On the 5th Gen that means sub-frame and radius bushes.

I suggest you install your Street Xa or Supercar Street and live with it for a while. If you still want sways, we can add them later with no duplication of labor.
That's exactly what I'll do. Buy whichever coilovers for now and live with them for awhile.
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