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Old 02-03-2011, 01:57 PM   #18
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Hi Folks,

For the "what it's worth" department, I have a fairly extensive experience with Pete and Pedders - having run their Track II package on my 06 GTO with outstanding results. I have owned close to 40 performance cars and trucks and have seen every level of engineering and customer service out there.
As stated earlier in this thread, I do not believe you can go wrong with either company. Both are top tier products that are committed to our satisfaction. I personally know Pete is always there for support and has been (from my experience), since early 2006 with the GTO (04-06), group. Both Pete and the entire Pedders team are forward thinking, customer driven folks.
I am now back with my new 2011 Camaro V6 daily driver purchase and look forward to having Pedders components installed once again.

Just my .02 cents.

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Thank you very much for your kind words. Please send me your snail mail address via PM or email PGB@PeddersUSA.com
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:29 PM   #19
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Great information guys . So if pedders xa are the more affordable coilovers , who can pm with the best C5 member price. I'm in it for looks only but still want the ride that my V6 has now. I have read way to many harsh stories on ride quality from lowering springs. So can any vendors on here help me?
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:58 PM   #20
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Great information guys . So if pedders xa are the more affordable coilovers , who can pm with the best C5 member price. I'm in it for looks only but still want the ride that my V6 has now. I have read way to many harsh stories on ride quality from lowering springs. So can any vendors on here help me?
Where are Bruce or Rob when I need them?
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:13 PM   #22
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:14 PM   #23
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Ok guys I just tried to call pedders but no answer so left a message. Can any vendors selling the xa coilovers pm me a price for my v6 ? Thanks
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Ok guys I just tried to call pedders but no answer so left a message. Can any vendors selling the xa coilovers pm me a price for my v6 ? Thanks
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Sorry for my lack of being on this forum,
We are in the process of setting up a new website and thus have not updated our pricing on the old site yet, so we are still stuck with the lower 2010 prices for another day or so.

New site should be up either Friday or Sunday with the 2011 pricing.
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Sorry for my lack of being on this forum,
We are in the process of setting up a new website and thus have not updated our pricing on the old site yet, so we are still stuck with the lower 2010 prices for another day or so.

New site should be up either Friday or Sunday with the 2011 pricing.
Rob,

It is a HUGE job and we all understand.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:02 PM   #27
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We have been getting a lot of inquiries recently about whether our GMPP coilovers are on sale or not. The answer is yes! We are still running our promo from last year. Check the details on Camaro5:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115205
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:08 PM   #28
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We have been getting a lot of inquiries recently about whether our GMPP coilovers are on sale or not. The answer is yes! We are still running our promo from last year. Check the details on Camaro5:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115205
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:30 PM   #29
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Although we cannot speak of the Pedders coilovers, we CAN speak of experiences that we have had with Pfadt Race Engineering coilovers and more importantly, the people behind the engineering. When buying any Pfadt Racing product, know that you are not only buying a properly engineered, Race proven setup, but also getting Pfadts passion, track experience, and benchmarked customer support with it. Get on the phone with Blair or Aaron any day of the week and rest assured that they'll do whatever it takes to get your car dialed in and set up perfectly for both street and track.

These are Top Quality engineered coilovers, you will not be disappointed.

General Motors knows, Johnny O'Connell knows, Pratt and Miller knows and 1000's of satisfied customers know.

Great products guys...can't wait to see what you have in store for 2011!!!
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:45 PM   #30
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can someone explain the difference between the two other than the price

thanks
The manufacturers and distributors have posted lots of good information on the two coilovers in this thread and it seems you have narrowed down your choice to the two best designs currently available IMHO. I had done my own research a year ago and considered the three P's as well (Pfadt, Pedders, Penske). I ended up choosing Pfadt for the following reasons (Penske was still prototyping theirs):

1. I wanted to spend my hard-earned money on a US-owned company. Although Pfadt sourced their shocks from Sachs Race Engineering in Germany from Pfadt's design and specifications, all engineering development and testing are done by US engineers in UT. Other suspension components such as swaybars, endlinks, camber plates are all designed and produced in the US. This is important to me but I realize it may not be a high priority for others.

2. I wanted a wider selection of springs as I add other modifications to my Camaro (e.g. adding a supercharger down the road may require increasing the front spring rate slightly). Only Pfadt offers the ability to use standard race springs; other manufacturers use custom springs to match the factory spring seats.

3. I wanted some shock adjustability but wanted to keep the adjustment simple as I cannot afford to spend days at the track to fine tune the suspension. Pfadt coilovers offer 20 clicks of combined compression and rebound adjustment. Other designs offer separate compression and rebound adjustments which are great for a race car (and racing program budget ). Let's say for argument sake, there are 15 independent adjustments for compression and rebound. That's a potential 225 combination of adjustments to be considered and tested if you're looking for absolute best set up for each particular track. I think this amount of adjustments is superfluous on daily drivers.

YMMV
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:27 PM   #31
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TCao,

Please allow me to clarify a few points in your well written post.

1. If you consider what is done in the USA by Pedders USA in the USA our product range for North America eight different platforms just for GM. You can add to that Ford and Chrysler platforms. Not only is it developed in the USA for the USA, much of it is made in the USA including, sway bars, end-links, alignment products and sub-assemblies. Having said that, may I point out that the 5th Gen is made in Canada. We live and work in a global community.

2. Coil selection is not a limited with Pedders. Our rear coils range from 7kg to 12kg for the rear using OE mounting points. For the front we range from 6kg to 10kg on the 5th Gen. Additionally the fronts are 62mm i.d. and compatible with any standard 62mm i.e. coil. Coil rate and selection is not an issue.

3. Pedders Xa coilovers are fixed ratio units with 30 positive click adjustments. The Supercars are independent bound and rebound adjustable and the potential combinations are staggering. That is exactly why Pedders makes available our detailed setup information so our clients do not have to reinvent the wheel.

Finally allow me to point out that ONLY Pedders makes available a complete suspension solution, a complete engineered system for the 5th Gen Camaro for under $2,000. The simplicity of the Xa adjustment is enhanced by addressing the foundational elements of the 5th Gen suspension with EP1200 and EP6578 Radius bush inserts. A full set of alignment bolts that add castor adjustment while extending the range of the OE eccentrics. At under $2,000 a Pedders Street Xa it is the best value available for the 5th Gen while being easy to install and easy to adjust.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:44 PM   #32
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great info guys...

you can almost feel the tension in the air...

And hats off to you two for offering some of the best products on the market, and sharing a post like this while keeping the boxing gloves off.

its a thin line you both walk, but do it well imo.
one thing i know for sure, i will be getting some coilovers for my car...

which brand?

you'll have to wait and see.
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i'm not certain that ours will fit the Crane Truck, so good luck on the new Camaro, lol
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The biggest difference to me was that the Pfadt coilovers did not require drilling. Check out both installs before you buy. The instructions are available on each vendor's site.
With Pedders new endlinks, they no longer require drilling either.
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