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Old 02-20-2011, 12:15 PM   #26
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Hey, that guy has a "reverse mohawk" too!!

I guess bald/balding men can all now say that they too have reverse mohawks!
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:18 PM   #27
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Im 6'1'' with long lefts and torso. With the seat all the way down I have enough room. More with out the roof of course but I love the roof open especially when Im doing 100mph. LOL
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:19 PM   #28
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That was supposed to be legs
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:23 PM   #29
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I am 6"3" and wear a hat most of the time, my hat hit the sunroof the whole drive, bought one without the sunroof..
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:23 AM   #30
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OK. Youze guys made me go G.I.S. for what a "Reverse Mohawk" is.





Although, the first thing that came to my mind, was this:

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Old 02-21-2011, 10:44 AM   #31
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I don't think it's that simple...

I'm 6'9", and I'm super comfortable in the sunroof-less, but the sunroof one doesn't cut it for me.

My dad however is 6'6" and said he can't comfortable fit in my sunroofless camaro.

I like to lay back so my arm is straight when I drive. I fit comfortably on other cars from acura integras to a smart car. My pant size length is only 32 though, so I have a tall torso.

My dad can't fit in ANY cars, and he's only 6'6". He now drives a Caddy DTS, but can't fit in the DTS with a sunroof. Since the new DTS only comes with sunroofs, he's actually switching to the Mercedes E550, since he doesnt fit in ANY of the caddy's except the trucks.

I however, at 3" taller, can fit fine in all of them.

Ultimately I don't think you can simply say whether or not certain heights can fit with enough headroom. Everyone sits in different ways, and have different proportions (Arm length for example matters too!)

At my height however I kind of just go with the "Maximize interior dimensions" mentality Whether I could fit with the roof or not, I prefer to maximize the interior, so I don't have to worry as much, can wear a hat, etc. I did that with my Truck (Used to have a '05 F150), even though I fit with the sunroof.

The other problem with having a sunroof with the Camaro, is if you ahve any plans to keep it long term, every sunroof leaks. 10, 20 years from now I think a sunroof will just be a PITA.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:47 AM   #32
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OK here we go again... YES the 'reverse mohawk' thing is over rated.
And YES I love my sunroof!
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:16 AM   #33
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I guess if you're really tall, you can always poke your head through the sunroof.
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:01 PM   #34
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After reading the many posts on head to headliner clearance and sunroof equiped verses reverse mohawks.............its got me to thinking.

It appears several varibles are mising from the differences in the simple torso & leg length theory on who can and can't fit into the car comfortably with-out scrubing their heads. For simplicities sake.........Lets say we take two different realitively tall drivers that are 6' 2" in height.

They are invited by their local dealer to take part in a side by side consumer comparison.......................both have just purchased indentically optioned models of the new Gen5.

After careful measurement, it is found that both have pant leg inseams of 32". While standing upright they measure identically from their waist center lines to the tops of their heads, and from their waist center lines to the bottom of their feet. Its discovered their arms are the same length, their shoulder widths are the same also.

One driver is of a slimmer build, weighing in @ 165 lbs. The other 65 lbs heavier, weighing in @ 230 lbs, the heavier complains that his head scrubs the headliner slightly once positioned in the drivers seat. The slighter of the two has no problems or complaints with head to headliner height fitment.

Both have their cars drivers seat and steering wheels adjusted to the most comfortable position, and after inspection it is found they're indentically set. The drivers seat is found to be lowered to its maximum position in both cars, with identical seating area tilting angles. The seat backs are adjusted slightly rearwards in the same manner of both cars.

Measurements are then taken while both drivers are positioned as noted. It is found that the slimmer driver has 3-1/2" clearance from the top of his head upwards towards the headliner material. The other driver has a mere 1/4".

Why are there such notable differences?
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OK here we go again... YES the 'reverse mohawk' thing is over rated.
And YES I love my sunroof!
IT IS. My family member has a Camaro SS and i'm sure if I asked him if he knows he has a reverse mowhawk on his roof he will say huh??? I would think the same with ALL camaro drivers who don't browse this forum.

If you don't like the Sunroof that's cool but don't say it's because you LOVE the reverse mohawk that doesn't make sense no one knows you have them lol
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:02 PM   #36
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It almost broke my heart the car I drooled over for years was too small for me (I'm 6'3). I left the lot. The dealer showed me the hardtop on another visit and its been love ever since! I was going to get the sunroof although I'd never seen it open at the time (but meh). The lack of head room in the Sunroof almost ruined a sale! Reverse 'Hawk FTW!
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:11 PM   #37
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IT IS. My family member has a Camaro SS and i'm sure if I asked him if he knows he has a reverse mowhawk on his roof he will say huh??? I would think the same with ALL camaro drivers who don't browse this forum.

If you don't like the Sunroof that's cool but don't say it's because you LOVE the reverse mohawk that doesn't make sense no one knows you have them lol


I'll agree that nobody would call it, refer to it, or know what you meant if you refered to it, as 'reverse mohawk' but I GAURANTEE you they noticed the roof. I suppose you may have a few owners out there who never wash their cars, aren't tall enough to see the roof, or crawl up to their car and stay low before they get in.

I know differing opinion can hurt peoples feelings a bit, but let's be real here. An owner of a 5th Gen Camaro knows every inch of their car. What are the chances a typical 5th Gen coupe owner says, "OMG, I never noticed that indent there"?

And all those coupes ordered were just, what? People who didn't know what a sunroof is? So why all the coupe owners? I'm thinking that more people like the roof and notice it than you think.
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I'll agree that nobody would call it, refer to it, or know what you meant if you refered to it, as 'reverse mohawk' but I GAURANTEE you they noticed the roof. I suppose you may have a few owners out there who never wash their cars, aren't tall enough to see the roof, or crawl up to their car and stay low before they get in.

I know differing opinion can hurt peoples feelings a bit, but let's be real here. An owner of a 5th Gen Camaro knows every inch of their car. What are the chances a typical 5th Gen coupe owner says, "OMG, I never noticed that indent there"?

And all those coupes ordered were just, what? People who didn't know what a sunroof is? So why all the coupe owners? I'm thinking that more people like the roof and notice it than you think.
uhhh there all coupes.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:54 PM   #39
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uhhh there all coupes.
Ok. Fine.

Point made though.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:55 PM   #40
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Well all you guys complaining should know that fat people will never ever really be comfortable in a sports car period. LMAO. I'm sorry but I had to.
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I'll agree that nobody would call it, refer to it, or know what you meant if you refered to it, as 'reverse mohawk' but I GAURANTEE you they noticed the roof. I suppose you may have a few owners out there who never wash their cars, aren't tall enough to see the roof, or crawl up to their car and stay low before they get in.

I know differing opinion can hurt peoples feelings a bit, but let's be real here. An owner of a 5th Gen Camaro knows every inch of their car. What are the chances a typical 5th Gen coupe owner says, "OMG, I never noticed that indent there"?

And all those coupes ordered were just, what? People who didn't know what a sunroof is? So why all the coupe owners? I'm thinking that more people like the roof and notice it than you think.

I agree! I am one of the first R6P guys and when they revealed pics of the sunroof open, alot of people jumped to the solid roof. I oredered my car before the pics of the sunroof were out and I ordered my car without it because I loved the reverse mohawk. People that look at these cars notice all the lines of the car and that includes the roof. It adds character unlike a flat roof.

And to the OP, if the purple car on 30" wheels is yours, I would be willing to bet that your driver seat is laid almost flat so you more then likely arent going to have head room issues in anything.
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I’m 6’4 and have the sun roof. Ordering with or without the sun roof had me in a quandary for a while. Then I sat in one with the sun roof and said the hell with it. I wear a cap most of the time and have no problems. The one thing that I did not consider and wished I had was a helmet! I have not taken the car to a track yet but know I will have to wear a helmet when I do. The helmet is going to cause a problem. :( But I do love the sun roof!

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Old 02-22-2011, 11:12 AM   #43
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6'4" here, notice the only time I don't notice my head rubbing the headliner is if I am wearing a tight hat, otherwise I notice I am 'leaning' to the middle of the car somewhat when I drive.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:15 AM   #44
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Wow. What a pain. I see why some tall guys do without the sunroof.

I have my seat all the way up and still don't run the top.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:41 PM   #45
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I know im not that tall being 5'9 and all but the guys that are really tall defending the sunroof etc. Wouldnt you want to raise your seat up off the floor a little to see over the hood to help overall judgment of your car? Personally I raise my seat as high as I can.

Edit: Disreguard that made no sense... Guess your head would already be up high.. der der.. bored at work ; ;
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:28 PM   #46
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Even drivers that aren't extremely tall with extra inches of poundage on their backsides could sit higher in the seat and rub their heads.............
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:43 PM   #47
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OK here we go again... YES the 'reverse mohawk' thing is over rated.
And YES I love my sunroof!
Agreed- My Camaro would not be as much fun without my sunroof and I never open it. Justs lets the sunshine in. IO interior and sunroof. Nothing compares.
Also, It's one of the most popular options on the Camaro.
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6'3 - it's a bit tight but doable and not a hazard at all.
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Belive it or not people, but the sun roof is the same one found it the 2008 pontiac grand prix gxp, that's the car I traded in for my ss. I'm 5'10 and have no problem getting in or out as long as the seat in all the way down. The only problem that I have encountered is with the XM radio reception, with the roof open part, or all the recption fades in and out sometimes. Other than that I love it.
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