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Old 03-06-2011, 09:13 PM   #18
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I'm all stock. But it's required for the Pfadt track attack. So, I just got the cheapest one I could get. It just depends on what you are doing. You might not need one for the 1/4 mile.
I'm REALLY hoping to get a slot for Pfadt day... 1/4 is the one that makes Eme the most nervous, and also where stuff tends to get broken, so at most I'll probably only do one pass.
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:25 PM   #19
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Here in commerce. Ga everyone with a street legal car wears a motorcycle helmet while racing! Don't think anyone wants to pY a couple hundred bucks for something used a few times a year, and they don't check them!
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Old 03-06-2011, 10:53 PM   #20
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When we did the drag racing at Firebird during the Super Chevy Show last October, they required helmets for everyone regardless of how fast you ran and checked for SA 2005 or 2010 certification during tech inspection. I think it was the tracks rule.
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:01 AM   #21
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They were strict with the Dot3 sticker in autocross last year. If no sticker, no use helmet! Just fyi.
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:48 AM   #22
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Since no one will answer me in the Pfadt thread, is this ok?
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:28 AM   #23
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I don't believe so... I think it has to have the year and or SNELL rating on it... the oldest it can be is snell 2000 or something close to that...
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:31 AM   #24
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When we did the drag racing at Firebird during the Super Chevy Show last October, they required helmets for everyone regardless of how fast you ran and checked for SA 2005 or 2010 certification during tech inspection. I think it was the tracks rule.
Bingo. Most tracks hae to follow NHRA or SCCA regulations due to their insurance. I know that here in Colorado they will check the interior of the helmet for the SA rating which is not in a motorcycle helmet. Here is the written requirements direct from Firebird.

10. Helmets: Drivers of all vehicles running 13.99 or quicker, and ALL convertibles regardless of E.T., must wear an SFI-approved helmet with a Snell rating of 2000 or newer. Passengers in convertibles running 14.00 and slower must also wear an approved helmet. (Note: DOT-only helmets are not permitted. SFI-approved helmets are not permitted if the Snell label inside the helmet is missing or illegible. In other words, a Snell-rating on the outside of the helmet is not good enough.)

As of February 1, 2006 all vehicles with an aftermarket power adder, (nitrous, turbocharger, or supercharger) running faster than 13.99 will be required to wear an SFI approved fire jacket

I did notice the web page was not updated since like 2007 and the nhra rule and the scca rule is a 10 year limit on rating so I am betting it will be a snell 2005 or 2010 rating to qualify.

http://www.firebirdraceway.com/web/streetdrags.html
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:44 AM   #25
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I'm sure if you make a 10 sec pass a roll cage will be required... Trying to find out what those limits are..

...and at what time do you have to have a helmet? 13.5 or faster..
NHRA and it looks like Firebird follows their rules so
13.99 helmet required
11.49 rollbar required
powere adders helmet and jacket required
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:16 PM   #26
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NHRA and it looks like Firebird follows their rules so
13.99 helmet required
11.49 rollbar required
powere adders helmet and jacket required
THANKS.. exactly what I was looking for... and just wanted to make sure everyone is prepared...

They were not strict at all in GA, I was running high 12's w/ no helmet or jacket, but my guess is it will be by the book in AZ.

A lot of folks will have helmets but Jackets may be missed... Here's a link to a good one..
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GFR-4381XLGBK/
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OK. But I'm talking about the Pfadt track day. They said, as long as it's Dot approved. Seriously, I just want someone to answer me, so I can send this back if it's the wrong one.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:27 PM   #28
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OK. But I'm talking about the Pfadt track day. They said, as long as it's Dot approved. Seriously, I just want someone to answer me, so I can send this back if it's the wrong one.
Depends on who they is... Pretty sure the answer will need to come from Firebird.

Why buy it if you know it won't be good everywhere.
SFI 31.2/2005 is another rating tech looks for on the inside of the helmet.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:29 PM   #29
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Depends on who they is... Pretty sure the answer will need to come from Firebird.

Why buy it if you know it won't be good everywhere.
SFI 31.2/2005 is another rating tech looks for on the inside of the helmet.
Because Blair at Pfadt was the one that said a DOT approved helmet was ok. I wasn't aware of the other 1/4 mile rules. If that's the case, them I'm returning my helmet and getting my refunf for the Pfadt track day, I am not spending $100 + on a helmet that I will only use occassionally.
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The track is SCCA certified so the rules should be:

Snell – SA2005, M2005, K2005, SA2000, M2000, K98, SA95, M95
SFI – 31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A, 41.2A
BSI – BS6658-85 type A/FR
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:42 PM   #31
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Here's the general rules that most tracks use. These are from the 2011 NHRA rule book.

I was warned to get a racing jacket that is SFI 3.2A/1 rated. I found one online for $80 at OG racing. You may need one of these if you are running forced induction. Some tracks may let you slide, it's better to be safe than sorry. I will lend my jacket to anyone at the fest in a jam at the fest, just look me up.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:47 PM   #32
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The track is SCCA certified so the rules should be:

Snell – SA2005, M2005, K2005, SA2000, M2000, K98, SA95, M95
SFI – 31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A, 41.2A
BSI – BS6658-85 type A/FR
So, that means I'm going to return my helmet and get my refund.
I wish someone would have said something, when I posted the helmet that I was getting. Kinda ticks me off.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:44 PM   #33
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Hey Milk 1027 before you give up. I was told on the phone by Pfadt that if you didn't have a helmet that you could most likly rent one at the track. I think that the racing school there will rent you one for a day or two. you should call them and see what they would charge.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:48 PM   #34
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Because Blair at Pfadt was the one that said a DOT approved helmet was ok. I wasn't aware of the other 1/4 mile rules. If that's the case, them I'm returning my helmet and getting my refunf for the Pfadt track day, I am not spending $100 + on a helmet that I will only use occassionally.


Anyone come across any deals? Cant afford an expensive helmet...
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