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View Poll Results: What should be an option on the 1SS?
Leather heated seats 80 31.37%
Complete Convenience and Connectivity package 137 53.73%
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:37 PM   #126
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I pre-ordered 1SS but i'm pretty sure I was able to add the Boston Acoustics® premium 9-speaker.
Yes you can add the 9-speaker option to the 1SS. I had got many quotes with options and I was able to do this.

I decided to go with the 2SS tho...
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:43 PM   #127
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I believe the ABL uses diffused LED bulbs behind the colored panel which diffuses them some more. Like taking a lamp and putting the shade over the bulb, and then putting a pretty colored shade over the first one.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:45 PM   #128
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Yes you can add the 9-speaker option to the 1SS. I had got many quotes with options and I was able to do this.

I decided to go with the 2SS tho...
So what's the actual difference on both? The seats? HP or what?
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:47 PM   #129
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I believe the ABL uses diffused LED bulbs behind the colored panel which diffuses them some more. Like taking a lamp and putting the shade over the bulb, and then putting a pretty colored shade over the first one.
Oh, ok. I see what you mean. Yeah thats possible if no Fiber Optics are involved.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:55 PM   #130
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So what's the actual difference on both? The seats? HP or what?
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1ss = Cloth Interior
2ss = Leather Heated Seats

2SS you can have the Inferno Orange Interior
2SS has C & C (1SS doesn't)
2SS has Ambient Lighting

Mind is drawing a blank on the rest...
also 2SS comes with 4 pack guages (1SS you'd have to order special)

HP isn't defined by 1SS or 2SS... its defined by Auto or Manual. 1ss auto=same as 2ss auto, thus 1ss manual= same as 2ss manual

You just get extra "Fluff" with the 2ss.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:58 PM   #131
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So what's the actual difference on both? The seats? HP or what?
Look at the Workbook it explains what extra comes with the 2SS. It's about 10 different things added. Including the connectivity package.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:37 PM   #132
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either model when the rs package is added makes a sweet looking ride.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:39 PM   #133
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The thing is i barely know anything about cars besides driving so a LOT of those stuffs in the handbook I didn't know. Lol.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:51 PM   #134
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Go with the 2SS if you had to purchase any options from the 2SS pacakge later I'm pretty sure it will add up more then the package price IMO
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:07 PM   #135
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After researching and searching about seats in 1SS, I am still a bit confused, maybe. The 1SS, the second from top of the line, does not come in leather? I have never heard of that before. The booklet says 2SS gets "Leather-appointed front seat trim with SS embroidery".

The "seat trim" is throwing me. Its makes it sound like it has extra leather.

All I want it leather and nothing more. 3000.00 for leather is hard to swallow.

PS. I know the 2SS has more than leather, but its all usless to me. I don't need all those gadgets in a muscle car. That stuff is for those fat a$$ soccer moms in their tahoe's, suburbans, and escalades.

Looks like I have to give up the ground effects for 2SS to get leather. Can I get ground effects later as dealer add on?
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:29 PM   #136
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Leather only comes with the 2LT/2SS models, if seats are all you care about on the upgrade I would really consider a 1SS plus some nice Recaro's. Ground effects only come as a dealer installed option.
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:52 PM   #137
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So what's the actual difference on both? The seats? HP or what?

This is the list of items that comes with the 2SS (not included with the 1SS).

Boston Acoustics® premium 9-speaker
245-watt audio system
n Bluetooth® for phone, personal cell phone
connectivity to vehicle audio system
n Cargo convenience net
n Driver Information Center (DIC) compass
n Four-pack gauges mounted on center console:
oil pressure, battery voltage, oil temperature and
transmission fluid temperature
n Inside auto-dimming rearview mirror
n Body-color power-adjustable heated mirrors
(auto dimming on driver side)
n Wireless PDIM (for use of steering-wheel controls
with auxiliary device)
n Remote vehicle starter system
(with automatic transmission)
n Leather-appointed front seat trim with SS embroidery
n Heated driver and front passenger seats
n Steering-wheel-mounted audio controls
n Universal Home Remote
n USB port
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:54 PM   #138
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If you haven't already check this thread out. Speak your mind on this.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12485

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PS. I know the 2SS has more than leather, but its all usless to me. I don't need all those gadgets in a muscle car. That stuff is for those fat a$$ soccer moms in their tahoe's, suburbans, and escalades.
well my lack of baggage should offset the extra gadgets - 2SS for me
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:31 PM   #140
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C&C for sure.... i just cant believe i HAVE to get leather to get C&C! from the pix i've seen the lower "butt bolsters" in the leather look bad and wavy.
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:26 PM   #141
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I personaly would like to see a leather delete on a 2SS. Give me am 800 or 1000 discount. I don't care for leather at all. Otherwise if the 4 pack gauges were an option I would go that way. I would probaly get the colored panels from parts even without the ABL just for looks.
For me the C&C isn't that important. I will only be driving on nice summer days. My 2 other Camaros were driven less than 1000 miles last year. My 08 Cobalt SS has steering wheel controls but it is so foreign to me that I always use the radio buttons. You don't have that much control with these controls anyway. Volume and mute yes but you have to change chanels by going up one preset at a time. And XM is even harder to find what you want.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:03 PM   #142
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I personaly would like to see a leather delete on a 2SS. Give me am 800 or 1000 discount. I don't care for leather at all. Otherwise if the 4 pack gauges were an option I would go that way. I would probaly get the colored panels from parts even without the ABL just for looks.
For me the C&C isn't that important. I will only be driving on nice summer days. My 2 other Camaros were driven less than 1000 miles last year. My 08 Cobalt SS has steering wheel controls but it is so foreign to me that I always use the radio buttons. You don't have that much control with these controls anyway. Volume and mute yes but you have to change chanels by going up one preset at a time. And XM is even harder to find what you want.
I am planning on the 4-pack gauge being available at the dealer and installing myself; therefore I am going with the 1SS and saving a few grand.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:35 PM   #143
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I think it is very silly GM is not offering C&C on the 1SS. It gives me one less thing to tempt me if I get one. It will be 1SS but haven't decided on the auto or manual and RS package or polished wheels...
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either model when the rs package is added makes a sweet looking ride.
that's because the RS package is an exterior appearance package. the only differences between the 1SS & 2SS are interior options.

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After researching and searching about seats in 1SS, I am still a bit confused, maybe. The 1SS, the second from top of the line, does not come in leather? I have never heard of that before. The booklet says 2SS gets "Leather-appointed front seat trim with SS embroidery".

The "seat trim" is throwing me. Its makes it sound like it has extra leather.

All I want it leather and nothing more. 3000.00 for leather is hard to swallow...
the 1SS is the bottom line V8. the 2SS is the top model V8.
the LS is the bottom line V6. the 1LT is a step up, and the 2LT is the top model V6.

basically the only interior option differences between the 2LT & 2SS are the SS emblems

the 2LT/2SS models get leather. the LS/1LT/1SS models get cloth.
the extra $3000 is for all the options listed in many posts above.

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I personaly would like to see a leather delete on a 2SS. Give me am 800 or 1000 discount. I don't care for leather at all. Otherwise if the 4 pack gauges were an option I would go that way. I would probaly get the colored panels from parts even without the ABL just for looks.
For me the C&C isn't that important. I will only be driving on nice summer days. My 2 other Camaros were driven less than 1000 miles last year. My 08 Cobalt SS has steering wheel controls but it is so foreign to me that I always use the radio buttons. You don't have that much control with these controls anyway. Volume and mute yes but you have to change chanels by going up one preset at a time. And XM is even harder to find what you want.
sounds like the leather delete you want is called the 1SS, seeing as how you don't really care one way or the other if you have all the fancy doo-dads. the aux gauges will be available as a dealer-install part, so you're set

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I am planning on the 4-pack gauge being available at the dealer and installing myself; therefore I am going with the 1SS and saving a few grand.
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Old 02-23-2009, 12:09 AM   #145
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This seems like it would take care of about 90% of the ordering concerns with the SS;

1. Make C & C optional on the 1SS like the 1LT

2. Make leather seats optional on 1SS and 2SS

I ordered a 2SS - RS as I wanted everything in the 2SS package except leather seats. It just made my decision harder to have to spend around $1000 for something I really didn't want.
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:29 AM   #146
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None of the above. The best the past were the cars with only the HP parts on them. I am ordering mine 1SS in White/Black with Hurst short throw shifter, Catback Exhaust, Preformance Air Intake and Shorty Headers. Ordered as LPO they will be on all paperwork and window sticker for future $$
Not to forget the added HP!
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None of the above. The best the past were the cars with only the HP parts on them. I am ordering mine 1SS in White/Black with Hurst short throw shifter, Catback Exhaust, Preformance Air Intake and Shorty Headers. Ordered as LPO they will be on all paperwork and window sticker for future $$
Not to forget the added HP!
if you ordered the hurst shifter as lpo, you need to have a chat with your dealer
you should read this if you ain't already
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:21 PM   #148
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I haven't read through the whole thread, so forgive me if this is a repost.

Anyone else wish you could downscale the 2SS a bit? Living in a warm climate, I'd love to not burn myself on leather seats everytime I get in my car, but at the same time I don't want to give up ABL, C&C, etc.

Besides, I like the extra friction you get with cloth; it comes in handy in the bendies.

It seems like my only option is to burn myself or give up those features...or swap out seats with someone with a 1SS who wants leather, which could be a big hassle.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:44 PM   #149
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None, the 4-pack gauges is what I'd like to see.
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None, the 4-pack gauges is what I'd like to see.
Same here, aftermarket may come out with some better options for the 4-pack gauges though!
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