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Old 03-28-2011, 07:29 PM   #120
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Why does allied stealing cars start a pooh flinging war between white color and blue color camaro owners. The fact is allied STOLE cars while transporting them. The drivers should be charged with gran theft one count per car stolen.

How is this any different than the drivers just driving those cars to their house and putting them in their own garage! Does the fact that a company did it make it a difference. Heck, maybe the mob should incorporate.
Drivers report to someone else...and it's that 'someone' who made the decision to park.

EDIT: Did you mean "collar"?

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I agree. Lets talk about something easy, such as religion!
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:35 PM   #121
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Don't worry, millions of other union members, and I will keep fighting so you can still live, in the most powerful country in the world, and one of the only countries to have those lazy union workers. Makes you wonder how we got that way without em. And I work in a place where safety is EXTREMELY important, and that makes it important to me, so there is a whole lot more than just money when it comes to unions. Does a college coarse make someone worth more? I am not on the side of business, I am on the side of everyday joes, who build the things that make our life easier.... like CAMAROS.
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:37 PM   #122
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No I'm pretty sure some are blue faced and some are white faced - and yea I did mean collar. Changing now, thank you.

Ps.... Imagine if I were serious about this comment: Go to you local ford store, test drive a mustang gt and just drive it home. Its ok tell them you report to me and I told you to.
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:40 PM   #123
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Ps.... Imagine if I were serious about this comment: Go to you local ford store, test drive a mustang gt and just drive it home. Its ok tell them you report to me and I told you to.
You've got to be kidding....
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:47 PM   #124
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You've got to be kidding....
Of course I am. Corporations do things "illegal" all the time under the cover of corporate disputes or "differences in contract spirit". Taking the literal most direct interpretation of a corporations actions just highlights the crappyness of what they are doing. Just sayin.. If you or me had two employees running cars like allied and we said hey drive them to our storage yard tonight don't deliver them - we would be in jail in short order. Just my guess...
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:49 PM   #125
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On a POSITIVE note....my dealer called the house this evening, my car IS NOT an Allied hostage, it's in NJ and being shipped to the dealer tomorrow.

Looks like I can pick her up Wednesday night.....the LONG wait is almost over.
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:54 PM   #126
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On a POSITIVE note....my dealer called the house this evening, my car IS NOT an Allied hostage, it's in NJ and being shipped to the dealer tomorrow.

Looks like I can pick her up Wednesday night.....the LONG wait is almost over.
Awesome!!
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:00 PM   #127
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This is just unimaginable. There is no winner in this scenario.

Losers:
  • Car owners waiting for the cars
  • Dealers panicing about losing potential Camaro customers to Ford
  • Truck drivers not sure what the future holds with their company making a bad move
  • Every company out there using this trucking company thinking twice.
Winner: None.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:02 PM   #128
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UNION LEADERSHIP is KILLING ITS MEMBERS!!!! LEGAL MAFIOSO???

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Beyond just making a bad business decision they have committing a crime. They have stolen $47 million worth of cars. In addition to a massive law suit I would be contacting attorney general offices across the country. I might even have GM reps go down to the Allied depots the trucks are parked at and having them call the local Sheriff's office if they refused to hand over my vehicles.
You union members ..... time to realize that your leaders are greedy and politically motivated to grease the palms that keep theirs greased. YOU PAY THE COST!

The unions have colluded with so many politicians around the country that the costs are UNSUSTAINABLE. It plain and simple. Challenge your leaders, get costs under control, SELL MORE CARS and keep more jobs here within our borders.

What say you?

I'm tired of paying strongarm fees from legalized MAFIOSO.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:33 PM   #129
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Thanks Moderators for letting this discussion go ... It was truly the heartbeat of America right there. The right to believe in unions or not, to express opinions and disagree openly. You did not have to go get a union job because the government ordered you to, you had the right to join, the right not to join and both love our Camaros !
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:48 PM   #130
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Thanks Moderators for letting this discussion go ... It was truly the heartbeat of America right there. The right to believe in unions or not, to express opinions and disagree openly. You did not have to go get a union job because the government ordered you to, you had the right to join, the right not to join and both love our Camaros !
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:18 PM   #131
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Don't worry, millions of other union members, and I will keep fighting so you can still live, in the most powerful country in the world, and one of the only countries to have those lazy union workers. Makes you wonder how we got that way without em. And I work in a place where safety is EXTREMELY important, and that makes it important to me, so there is a whole lot more than just money when it comes to unions. Does a college coarse make someone worth more? I am not on the side of business, I am on the side of everyday joes, who build the things that make our life easier.... like CAMAROS.
Funny I thought our military past and present gave us the right to live the way we do in this country?
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:46 PM   #132
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Funny I thought our military past and present gave us the right to live the way we do in this country?
... have you been in either the military or a union? I keep hearing from everyone who doesn't pay one red cent of how unions are greedy. Over my lifetime in the steelworkers, I will give over 60k dollars to help the fight for wages, benefits, and safety from companies, who would do everything they could to pay next to nothing. To buy lobbyists to help put tarrifs on underpriced goods coming to our country. And all I hear from non union workers is how greedy I am. How much have you paid to help keep better wages for our families?
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:51 PM   #133
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Not to put a damper on this freedom of speech exercise, but does anyone know if any of the specialty Camaros destined for Camaro Fest 2 are being held captive somewhere?
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:16 PM   #134
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:23 PM   #135
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... have you been in either the military or a union? I keep hearing from everyone who doesn't pay one red cent of how unions are greedy. Over my lifetime in the steelworkers, I will give over 60k dollars to help the fight for wages, benefits, and safety from companies, who would do everything they could to pay next to nothing. To buy lobbyists to help put tarrifs on underpriced goods coming to our country. And all I hear from non union workers is how greedy I am. How much have you paid to help keep better wages for our families?
Well I HAVE worked in and "with" labor unions...ask any electrician, plumber or other contractor this question - "What's the best [electrician, plumber, etc.] job to get?" Answer: A union job - highest pay for least work.

My first, but far from only experience:
Got on a ship, my cabin had paint peeling off the steel walls, after asking repeatedly to have the laborers scrape and paint it, and watching them on their coffee and cigarette breaks, I decided to just do it myself. On a Sunday when I didn't have bridge watch, I started working. Having gotten thru all the scraping, priming and 1/2 the painting, the Chief Mate walks by and sees me doing this and flipped out!!! WTF I ask. Stop right now and tell me how long you worked on this, because now I have to pay the (union) laborers overtime for the work you did! PS- I waited three more weeks for them to finish the last 1/2 of the painting!!!

Not all unions, but this is what I think has pervaded them...lazy, selfish "workers".

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Old 03-28-2011, 10:25 PM   #136
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