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Old 02-26-2009, 02:22 PM   #69
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Thanks Scotty, like always, two thumbs up.
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Well, it's nice to hear and everything, but we are going to need new interior pictures here. Our cars will be here soon and it would sure be nice to know what we are buying.

Let's see this "doors only" lighting GM. If you are afraid to show us then I'm afraid of what else you're hiding. I've been itching to buy GM stock, but with shady things like this happening I'm reluctant...not a sign of strength by any means.
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Old 02-26-2009, 02:40 PM   #71
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Well, it's nice to hear and everything, but we are going to need new interior pictures here. Our cars will be here soon and it would sure be nice to know what we are buying.

Let's see this "doors only" lighting GM. If you are afraid to show us then I'm afraid of what else you're hiding. I've been itching to buy GM stock, but with shady things like this happening I'm reluctant...not a sign of strength by any means.
If they show us before March 15, then all is good since we all will be able to change our orders if they haven't been pulled by then. Those of us with cyber grey orders will get an extra month or so however the prices may change for the worse after March 15 if we make changes since the current price won't be locked in. That info is coming from my dealer so I don't know how accurate it is..
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Well, it's nice to hear and everything, but we are going to need new interior pictures here. Our cars will be here soon and it would sure be nice to know what we are buying.

Let's see this "doors only" lighting GM. If you are afraid to show us then I'm afraid of what else you're hiding. I've been itching to buy GM stock, but with shady things like this happening I'm reluctant...not a sign of strength by any means.


You will see it on Saturday... relax, people! GM is not "hiding" anything! They were working on it, tried to mimic the renderings, encountered problems, and now they're ready to show us the final product. Why will no one accept that?

Save your :upset: complaints until AFTER Saturday, if they are still valid. Until then...
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You will see it on Saturday... relax, people! GM is not "hiding" anything! They were working on it, tried to mimic the renderings, encountered problems, and now they're ready to show us the final product. Why will no one accept that?

Save your :upset: complaints until AFTER Saturday, if they are still valid. Until then...

I was just in my ol' time machine and tossed her over to Saturday...can I complain now?
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You will see it on Saturday... relax, people! GM is not "hiding" anything! They were working on it, tried to mimic the renderings, encountered problems, and now they're ready to show us the final product. Why will no one accept that?

Save your :upset: complaints until AFTER Saturday, if they are still valid. Until then...
Why are they waiting until Saturday to make an official announcement when Scott has already let the cat out of the bag officially? They've already decided not to have it so we are all voicing our opinions on the issue. We have the right to do it on this forum as it is not hurting anyone. The only possible "new" information we may get on Saturday is a better explanation as to "why?" abl simply didn't work on the dash. Wether or not a discounted price on the 2SS package will come into play, and or wether or not a full ambient lighting will appear or be worked on so it can be ready the next model year, which will be when the HUD and the color white will be available.
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I was just in my ol' time machine and tossed her over to Saturday...can I complain now?
lol... I suppose so then? When you're done, I'd like to borrow that and go foward to the day my Camaro arrives... kthx

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Why are they waiting until Saturday to make an official announcement when Scott has already let the cat out of the bag officially? They've already decided not to have it so we are all voicing our opinions on the issue. We have the right to do it on this forum as it is not hurting anyone. The only possible "new" information we may get on Saturday is a better explanation as to "why?" abl simply didn't work on the dash. Wether or not a discounted price on the 2SS package will come into play, and or wether or not a full ambient lighting will appear or be worked on so it can be ready the next model year, which will be when the HUD and the color white will be available.
Saturday they will be showing the production version at the Cleveland Auto Show. Everyone can "oooooh", "ahhhhh", or "ewwww" at it and take pictures for us
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If, for some reason, it actually does look horrible (which I'm sure it won't), I do hope that they offer a "recall" of some sort to get it installed/upgraded when they actually do get it working. That would make everybody
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If, for some reason, it actually does look horrible (which I'm sure it won't), I do hope that they offer a "recall" of some sort to get it installed/upgraded when they actually do get it working. That would make everybody
I agree with this, especially if the price of the 2SS package remains the same and they do plan on getting it fully working at all..
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Well, the pipe on the dash didnt workout I guess. Maybe they are going to "project" the light from a different location onto the dash area, maybe from the ceiling light or something?

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just a thought for all people who are very disappointed about this...

You will only be turning the ambient lighting on at night (at least that is when it will be effective). Therefore, there's agreat chance you will have your lights on, meaning all the dash lights and accessory ligths will be on as well. From the pics I've seen, alot of the dash lighting is the same color as the ambient so in essence, the dash lighting can kind of be considered "ambient" lighting. I think all the lighting in the doors combines with the accessory lighting will look just fine. I also think that if there was lighting on the dash like we all hoped, it might actually be abit too much in addition to the accessory and guage lighting. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think it'll look like anything is missing when all the lights are on together. Anyone else agree?
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just a thought for all people who are very disappointed about this...

You will only be turning the ambient lighting on at night (at least that is when it will be effective). Therefore, there's agreat chance you will have your lights on, meaning all the dash lights and accessory ligths will be on as well. From the pics I've seen, alot of the dash lighting is the same color as the ambient so in essence, the dash lighting can kind of be considered "ambient" lighting. I think all the lighting in the doors combines with the accessory lighting will look just fine. I also think that if there was lighting on the dash like we all hoped, it might actually be abit too much in addition to the accessory and guage lighting. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think it'll look like anything is missing when all the lights are on together. Anyone else agree?
Yes.
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just a thought for all people who are very disappointed about this...

You will only be turning the ambient lighting on at night (at least that is when it will be effective). Therefore, there's agreat chance you will have your lights on, meaning all the dash lights and accessory ligths will be on as well. From the pics I've seen, alot of the dash lighting is the same color as the ambient so in essence, the dash lighting can kind of be considered "ambient" lighting. I think all the lighting in the doors combines with the accessory lighting will look just fine. I also think that if there was lighting on the dash like we all hoped, it might actually be abit too much in addition to the accessory and guage lighting. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think it'll look like anything is missing when all the lights are on together. Anyone else agree?
After seeing the new ambient lighting for myself - see my time machine post - I have to say that I'm disappointed with the whole thing and the whole car. I'll be canceling my order after work today. I am speechless that the ambient lighting didn't light up my shoes as I was told by the dealer when I ordered. I'll be picking up a Prius on the way home
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Old 02-26-2009, 03:23 PM   #82
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I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think it'll look like anything is missing when all the lights are on together. Anyone else agree?
No. If they thought that looked better than the dash they would have just done this back in December when problems first started being announced.

Next year ABL will probably include the dash and extras like the HUD, and the '10 model will then be known as the unfinished test mule of the 5th gens.
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No. If they thought that looked better than the dash they would have just done this back in December when problems first started being announced.

Next year ABL will probably include the dash and extras like the HUD, and the '10 model will then be known as the unfinished test mule of the 5th gens.
Kinda' like the '01 Z06 guys?...
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Old 02-26-2009, 03:38 PM   #84
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.... early adopter penalty. It can happen to anyone who buys anything just to get it first, be it a stereo, and iPhone or in this case a car.


Now how's about we wait till Saturday and see how everything looks before we continue?
Maybe... just maybe, people will like it even MORE. (And then we will have to find a new thing to complain about. I nominate stripe length, cause I don't think people have moaned about that yet )
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Kinda' like the '01 Z06 guys?...
A little history lesson for those of us unfamiliar with the topic?
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