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Old 02-26-2009, 03:41 PM   #86
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.... early adopter penalty. It can happen to anyone who buys anything just to get it first, be it a stereo, and iPhone or in this case a car.


Now how's about we wait till Saturday and see how everything looks before we continue?
Maybe... just maybe, people will like it even MORE. (And then we will have to find a new thing to complain about. I nominate stripe length, cause I don't think people have moaned about that yet )
Let's hold out opinions until Saturday. You please everyone...
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.... early adopter penalty. It can happen to anyone who buys anything just to get it first, be it a stereo, and iPhone or in this case a car.


Now how's about we wait till Saturday and see how everything looks before we continue?
Maybe... just maybe, people will like it even MORE. (And then we will have to find a new thing to complain about. I nominate stripe length, cause I don't think people have moaned about that yet )
Like it even more? Lol.. That is wishful thinking. You can't take something away that we've all seen and been believing was what the interior was going to look like and the take the best part of it away without adding something else equally as impressive and hope people will like the new missing interior better..lol...Don't get me wrong, I hope you are right..But I am stuck in reality here..
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Thanks for the info Scotty!


BUT....




And personally, while I am a little disappointed that it's not going to be in the dash, it's kinda like the disappointment you have when you find out your hot fudge sunday only has 2 cherries on top instead of 3.

Bring on the aftermarket ABL dash kits!
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Well in all fairness we have been hearing about problems with ABL for a few months now, that should be enough time for people to accept the possibility that it might not happen or be altered.

I hope it looks awesome, and that's all I can do until I see some pics or vids on Saturday. Or I could also delay my order till next year, because I am REALLY hoping for some Z28 action. Like REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping for some z28 action.
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Well in all fairness we have been hearing about problems with ABL for a few months now, that should be enough time for people to accept the possibility that it might not happen or be altered.
Au contraire. We were told to "keep the faith" and that all would be fine. Do I need to look back to find posts where people proclaimed that ABL would be good to go and the rumors were baseless?
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Hey, at least we finally know the meaning of "The eagle is taking a shower and dropped the soap."
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I am saying wait till Saturday and maybe things will be cool and this thread will look silly. Maybe they will give us afterburners and a cupon for free dash install.

You can call me a fanboy, but I remember a sad day in 2002 when the last F bodies were made, and a certain someone told us to 'keep the faith' about it's return. Now here we are and that promise has been kept. That means a lot to me personally.
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...I've been itching to buy GM stock...
Have you lost your mind? You see today's report from Q4? They finally beat estimates- just in the wrong direction. $9.6 BILLION loss for the quarter; "Excluding special items, GM lost $5.9 billion, or $9.65 a share, in the quarter".

Dude, it's trading at $2.34 per share. How do you lose $9.65 per share on something that's worth $2.34? They are headed for Chapter 11 IMO- no way around it now. And, yes, that's a GOOD thing.
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Have you lost your mind? You see today's report from Q4? They finally beat estimates- just in the wrong direction. $9.6 BILLION loss for the quarter; "Excluding special items, GM lost $5.9 billion, or $9.65 a share, in the quarter".

Dude, it's trading at $2.34 per share. How do you lose $9.65 per share on something that's worth $2.34? They are headed for Chapter 11 IMO- no way around it now. And, yes, that's a GOOD thing.
Let him do it. Everyone needs a good lesson in investing...
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Let him do it. Everyone needs a good lesson in investing...
Hey, he's close anyways... I'd maybe take a serious look at GE. There's a company with stock in the toilet for no real reason other than the overall economy. If you got time to wait (and money to spend), that I'd seriously consider. GM ? Not with a 10 foot poll.
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Au contraire. We were told to "keep the faith" and that all would be fine. Do I need to look back to find posts where people proclaimed that ABL would be good to go and the rumors were baseless?
Although it'd be interesting to see any of those, I have to ask: is it really necessary; will it do any good? I think it would just further flame already surging anger/frustration/etc. on this topic. I'm not saying don't express one's self - just think more globally in our community. This is not a place to bash. We should try to remain happy that although it's been a long, bumpy road, Camaro is coming back, after all. I'm sure they wanted all the features on the Concept to make it to production, and did what they could to enable that, but not all things work out. I'm just suggesting to try to remain positive, on the whole

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You can call me a fanboy, but I remember a sad day in 2002 when the last F bodies were made, and a certain someone told us to 'keep the faith' about it's return. Now here we are and that promise has been kept. That means a lot to me personally.
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Aftermarket vendors are going to be all over this. Disco lighting, following lighting, chase mode, remote controlled brightness, dances to the music, patterns and colors.

Another vote for the 1SS versus 2SS.



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How much horsepower and handling does ambient lighting add?
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We should all happy to get this car anyway we can. With the outlook for GM getting worse everyday, there may be no Camaro next year or any GM vehicle. Look around GM Inside News, its alot worse them most people would like to believe.
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How much horsepower and handling does ambient lighting add?
Due to electrical load, that translates into alternator horsepower requirements, the ABL causes a LOSS of .002147 horsepower.

This translates into a 0-60mph time degraded by .00081 seconds, for a net result of 4.50081 seconds compared to 4.50000 for non-ABL vehicles. UN-acceptable.
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