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Old 02-26-2009, 06:26 PM   #137
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Unless you have the IOM interior pkg, the light is always blue; orange with the package.
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:29 PM   #138
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:33 PM   #139
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I bet that anyone that sees the ABL that didn't know it existed on the Camaro is going to be very impressed with it. the people on here that have lusted for it for the last 2 years are the only ones that are going to be dissapointed...
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:34 PM   #140
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It's not just the LED they would be eliminating...it's the acrylic panel and associated wiring.

I have another theory too...what are the legalities regarding lights on your dash? Did GM get overzealous and forget to check whether it is even legal to have a light up dashboard????
CTS has lighting on the dash. Light pipe across the I/P and through the doors.
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:37 PM   #141
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And this just lost GM a bunch of sales.. Definitely steering away from the 2 level trims. It just looks..tacky now. Half assed at best. I'm disappointed, GM. Very disappointed.
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:38 PM   #142
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I bet that anyone that sees the ABL that didn't know it existed on the Camaro is going to be very impressed with it. the people on here that have lusted for it for the last 2 years are the only ones that are going to be dissapointed...
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To me, this is just another disappointment in an ever growing list. This in and of itself is not a deal breaker, I will wait to see what it looks like. However, I am reaching a point where I feel I might be better off waiting till 2010. By then they should have this and a number of other things sorted out. Who knows, maybe even an LS7 version might be available or some other 500hp+ variant.
So what is your ever growing list? Just curious.

Also, how many people have actually seen ABL in person? I guess I mean who actually knows what doors only looks like relative to doors and I/P. I haven't seen it and I've seen an awful lot of Camaros. So even I won't know the difference. Will only be able to imagine it.
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CTS has lighting on the dash. Light pipe across the I/P and through the doors.
So are we EVER going to know why it's not across the dash being GM is obviously capable of it?
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CTS has lighting on the dash. Light pipe across the I/P and through the doors.
Notice that It is lower on the dash than the Camaro's was supposed to be, it is below the trim strip and that trim strip is actually lower than the caaros dash strip too... So my theory on the heat at the top of the dash still may be what the problem was
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All they really have to do is round off the point where the door panel would have hit the dash and it wouldn't look so bad.
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:50 PM   #147
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This is awsome i could care less that its not in the dash
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:54 PM   #148
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Hopefully they'll have a fully operational production Camaro in Cleveland for those people showing up for the invitation only event (there is one in Cleveland...right?). If so, pics please.
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Has any one actually said this was going to light up while the car was in motion (drive)????

I note all of this speculation and worry started AFTER the news about the change from the bankrupt dash supplier. This may be a lot more related to practical problems with a replacement supplier than "technical or chemistry with heat..

There is still lots of leather in the world so you can cover over the door inserts if you don't like it.

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And this just lost GM a bunch of sales.. Definitely steering away from the 2 level trims. It just looks..tacky now. Half assed at best. I'm disappointed, GM. Very disappointed.
Oh, I didn't know you'd seen it already. Before everyone else. OMG post pics. Otherwise, you = fail.
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I am going to laugh so hard if the interior looks just like concept, but only doors light up. Oh man, that's going to irk me and I'll always feel like I'll have to explain it to everyone who sits in my car..."notice the doors light up, but the light stops when it reaches dash?...no not really....oh well GM f'd up, it was supposed to go all around.....oh, i wouldn't have noticed until you told me.....yeah I know that's my OCD kicking in"
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So what is your ever growing list? Just curious.

Also, how many people have actually seen ABL in person? I guess I mean who actually knows what doors only looks like relative to doors and I/P. I haven't seen it and I've seen an awful lot of Camaros. So even I won't know the difference. Will only be able to imagine it.
ABL - not what we rightly or wrongly thought we were going to be getting
Stripe package - hood thing and limited factory install colors
Hurst Shifter - may not be available as an LPO or RPO
GFX - not body color matching
HUD -not available in the first production year if at all
Prices for GM accessories are out to lunch.

I know that most of these things can be addressed by after market add ons or some other after market process such as painting, etc. For the average guy/gal buying this as his/her daily driver it doesn't matter, he/she will drive it for a few years and sell it to upgrade and there is nothing wrong with that. I am buying this as a keeper/collector and it probably won't see more 2000 miles a year. It may never be worth anymore than what I pay for it the day it is new, but one thing is for certain, painting and modding kills its collector value. Watch Barrett & Jackson and see the difference between what an all original 67 Camaro fetches price wise and one that is not.

The new Camaro is a great car, but if the 2011 model comes with all the bells and whistles, this could hurt the collector value of the 2010, making it less desirable.
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