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Old 04-18-2011, 04:23 PM   #26
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Yeah thanks. That's like the one part of the interior I haven't noticed after looking at thousands of these pictures for the last few years. I probably would have noticed it if I had ever sat in a fifth gen but I refuse to until I get my own. If I did it would make this long wait even worse.
Well, for what its worth, i know what you mean. I sat in a 98 camaro SS and never got around to getting my hands on an LS1 fbody. I wanted the car BADLY too. I should have never, sat in or driven it.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:39 PM   #27
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+1 on making the cluster/plastic carbon fiber & changing the speedometer
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:05 PM   #28
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Why do I swear I saw this on here before from a while ago?

I checked R&T's website and this was from March... *confused*
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:30 AM   #29
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ZL1 is hot, but please make the inside a little hotter. I love the suede, but the steering wheel doesn't match the car and the guages can be nicer. I don't like the plastic. At least do it in carbon fiber. One more thing, why isn't the hp the same as the Cadillac ctsv. ZL1 should be the same or a little more. PLEASE
carbon fiber is unless it's painted over like it should be.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:43 AM   #30
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:28 AM   #32
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I want to see the ZL1 convertible!!

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I want the ZL1 Hardtop convertible!!!!! I would be like watching bumble transform!
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:02 AM   #33
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TY

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I want the ZL1 Hardtop convertible!!!!! I would be like watching bumble transform!
I'm not holding my breath on that one, but I would definitely drop some G's for a hardtop vert. I was talking to a friend with a new '11 convertible the other day and he said that at speed he can see the middle section above the back seat "sort-of flapping." I would only do a 'vert if it were hardtop.

It would be rad if they introduced something like that as a Transformers special edition.

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I really think this car is being changed as we speak. With the GT500 swinging to 620hp for 2012, the present LSA won't have a chance. If you watch that 3 way race between the GTR-Z06-GT500. The Vette just beat the GT500 by a tiny amount, and thats the GT500 at 550hp, not the 2012 at 620hp. I SO want to buy this car but I will have to wait for the real numbers.

-Bobby
That was kinda expected, but not good to hear. It is IMPERATIVE for me that any ZL1 that I drive should beat a stock GT500 of the same model year with a touch of margin to compensate for my occasionally-less-than-razor-sharp shifting.

Techhie guys, two questions:

Let's assume the ZL1 comes in stock around 565 HP. This probably means we would need around 85 more HP to beat the lighter 620 HP GT 500. (565+85=650 HP ZL1)

I know we're missing specifics, but indulge my fantasyland for a moment. What would we have to do to get those numbers, and how close could we come without voiding the warranty?

I really want to beat the Ford-ponies in my Camaro. It's way too easy on my Hayabusa.


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Old 04-19-2011, 10:49 AM   #34
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Techhie guys, two questions:

Let's assume the ZL1 comes in stock around 565 HP. This probably means we would need around 85 more HP to beat the lighter 620 HP GT 500. (565+85=650 HP ZL1)

I know we're missing specifics, but indulge my fantasyland for a moment. What would we have to do to get those numbers, and how close could we come without voiding the warranty?



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That's a hard one. I think thats impossible without voiding the warranty. I heard on the corvette boards that a Z06 owner whos 100 % stock LS7 blew up wasn't covered because he painted his red engine cover a different color. They voided his warranty, BECAUSE HE PAINTED HIS ENGINE COVER!!! GM is finding every way possible to not do warranty work on their cars. If they can't void the warranty for whatever reason when you bring it in for a problem, they tell you it's supposed to do that. Getting warranty work done with GM is like pulling teeth.

It would be really nice if they offered the LS9 engine as an option. I'd pay another 10 grand for an LS9 lol
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:21 AM   #35
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That's a hard one. I think thats impossible without voiding the warranty. I heard on the corvette boards that a Z06 owner whos 100 % stock LS7 blew up wasn't covered because he painted his red engine cover a different color. They voided his warranty, BECAUSE HE PAINTED HIS ENGINE COVER!!!

I have a very hard time believing that is the truth or the full story.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:11 PM   #36
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Where are people getting 620hp from the 2012 GT500 from??
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:28 PM   #37
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Where are people getting 620hp from the 2012 GT500 from??
It's the rumored 2013 output with a new engine. Forgot the source.
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:25 PM   #38
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Where are people getting 620hp from the 2012 GT500 from??
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:47 PM   #39
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They should give the ZL1 T-Tops!!! Really separate it from the other 5th gen camaros
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:23 AM   #40
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They should give the ZL1 T-Tops!!! Really separate it from the other 5th gen camaros
I can see them keeping this a hardtop only model.
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I keep seeing folks wanting a convertible ZL1 and auto transmission, and other comfort features. Now I'm certainly not an expert on this here, but in my reading about performance cars I understand that speed and handling is definitely impacted by the design of a convertible . Not having a solid roof structure causes the car to flex improperly on take-off and reduces handling as well as speed. A true performance machine should only have a solid roof structure. And I'm not really sure that an automatic transmission would be the best thing on a high-torque machine either. My preference is DEFINITELY manual.

Can't wait for this beast to be produced and to get a test drive! After driving a manual 2SS, it's almost impossible for me not to spring for one right now and then trade up to the ZL1 when it's released.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:05 AM   #42
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I keep seeing folks wanting a convertible ZL1 and auto transmission, and other comfort features. Now I'm certainly not an expert on this here, but in my reading about performance cars I understand that speed and handling is definitely impacted by the design of a convertible . Not having a solid roof structure causes the car to flex improperly on take-off and reduces handling as well as speed. A true performance machine should only have a solid roof structure. And I'm not really sure that an automatic transmission would be the best thing on a high-torque machine either. My preference is DEFINITELY manual.

Can't wait for this beast to be produced and to get a test drive! After driving a manual 2SS, it's almost impossible for me not to spring for one right now and then trade up to the ZL1 when it's released.

Automatics have come a long way since the 70's and 80's when I was driving both types of transmissions the last being an 87 grand national
which only came in an automatic. Only had a 3.8 liter engine but was
turbo charged and a very quick car for the times.

For me personally I'll be 57 when I get my car next year, and although I can appreciate manual transmissions, I'm at the point that I would like
an automatic to be an option. If they add a couple thousand, I would be
willing to pay for the conveince. I believe GM would really sell alot more ZL1's if they offered an automatic transmission.
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Please please don't take this the wrong way, any of you guys that want a convertable with an automatic transmission, but I'm curious as to why you want a ZL1 rather then an SS convertable with an automatic if you want things like a convertable and auto transmission. The ZL1 is supposed to be the all out, ballz to the wall performance camaro, right? And while I understand the desire for an auto, especially since they have come a long way and ARE very good with performance now, why would you want to spend the money for all the extra power if your just gonna be cruising with the top down with an auto transmission? For the top performance camaro, personally I'd like the manual to feel more in tune with the car, and to have all that control over the car, and the weight advantage and stability of a solid roof. Maybe I'm missing something. Again, I don't mean to offend anyone that wants a convertable ZL1 with an auto, I'm just curious
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:26 AM   #44
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Maybe I'm missing something. Again, I don't mean to offend anyone that wants a convertible ZL1 with an auto, I'm just curious
I'm guessing you're familiar with the 427 AC Cobra. It handles relatively well and it was a convertible.

Also, the GT500 is available as a convertible and it is the main competition for the ZL1. Chevrolet will likely lose sales to the GT500 if the ZL1 is not available as a convertible.
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The SLP modded convertible I saw the other day was an auto. The owner said the paddle shifters wouldn't let him get out of 1st as quick as he liked, so in the future, he would only be going manual.

Honestly, I wasn't thinking about handling & the rigidity of the frame when I said a hardtop 'vert would be nice, I was just thinking about the cool factor. You do have a point there I suppose, 10forty2.

I wonder how a hardtop convertible arrangement would affect cabin noise levels.
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I'm guessing you're familiar with the 427 AC Cobra. It handles relatively well and it was a convertible.

Also, the GT500 is available as a convertible and it is the main competition for the ZL1. Chevrolet will likely lose sales to the GT500 if the ZL1 is not available as a convertible.
You do make a very good point, the GT500 is available in a convertible. Yes, I am familiar with that car. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it true they were only able to get away making that car as light weight as it was with the convertible without strengthening the cars structure, because they didn't have the safety requirements they do now? Questions isn't really related, just something I always wondered
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:28 PM   #47
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I really think this car is being changed as we speak. With the GT500 swinging to 620hp for 2012, the present LSA won't have a chance. If you watch that 3 way race between the GTR-Z06-GT500. The Vette just beat the GT500 by a tiny amount, and thats the GT500 at 550hp, not the 2012 at 620hp. I SO want to buy this car but I will have to wait for the real numbers.

-Bobby
Lots of guys making 550hp. with their NA 2010 SS with a tune and some basic mods, and a lot more than that with an SC bolted on probably close to 750hp.
Could it be the ZL1 is way under tuned? What kind of SC is on it, capacity, how much boost?
Also, noticing the RPM guage on the ZL1 max'd at 7k, on the SS it's 9k. Anyone know anything about that?
Hey, never know, maybe it's GM's way of assuring they don't have to honour warranties. Give people a vehicle that's way undertuned, and all wrong intake / exhaust setups, everyone will do mods to beat Challengers and Mustangs, and then GM will say, we don't honour warranties for mod'd vehicles. Whatcha' think?

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Please please don't take this the wrong way, any of you guys that want a convertable with an automatic transmission, but I'm curious as to why you want a ZL1 rather then an SS convertable with an automatic if you want things like a convertable and auto transmission. .............. Maybe I'm missing something. Again, I don't mean to offend anyone that wants a convertable ZL1 with an auto, I'm just curious
Uh......? Well it would be faster, handled better than an SS version...??

If I was wishing for this or that, it would be a sleeper version. An SS with the engine, drive train and supension up grades without the hood and big spoiler. Just the wheels and the front change would be enough of a flag for the trained eye. Under the radar so to speak...
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