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Old 05-04-2011, 08:06 AM   #18
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I check mine regularly and change it around 35-40%
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:14 AM   #19
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:16 AM   #20
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its good in theory,, but it just doesnt work,, especially when people use cheap oil,, and no one checks their oil anymore, then people complain that they have their low oil light come on but they have 8000 miles on their oil change.

gm is re-programming many of the v6 engine ecm's to make the oil change light come on sooner because of all the problems these engines are having with oil issues
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:34 AM   #22
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Just changed my oil in both my cars:

Camaro: 7,200 miles with 28% left after one year. The manual says to wait for the DIC or one year.

Fiesta: 10,076 miles when the oil change sensor went off. The Ford manual states to change the oil every 10,000 miles.

- For the record many car companies go a lot further than even 10,000 miles. Oil is SOOOOO much better than was when 10W40 and 3,000 miles were the standard.
Looks like I will be going to the one year interval too. My Mobil1 oil has 5,200 miles on it and 40% Oil Life. in 10 months.
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:54 AM   #23
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I'd never use the oil life monitor. I go by how it looks on the stick. I know using the oil monitor is "probably" ok, but "probably" doesn't cut it when it comes to an engine on a $35,000 car.
so you'd rather trust your eyes (that I'm sure are calibrated to judge actual contamination of oil, not just its "dirty look") over a system designed by engineers for the sole purpose of telling you if your oil is good or not?

sorry, but "How it looks on the stick" doesnt cut it when it comes to an engine on a $35,000 car.

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its good in theory,, but it just doesnt work,, especially when people use cheap oil,, and no one checks their oil anymore, then people complain that they have their low oil light come on but they have 8000 miles on their oil change.

gm is re-programming many of the v6 engine ecm's to make the oil change light come on sooner because of all the problems these engines are having with oil issues
define cheap oil.

you talking regular dino oil vs synthetic? the system works with both types of oil.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:06 AM   #24
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OnStar is "on my butt" about the Camaro OLM reading like in the 80s yet it's been a bit over a year since an oil change.

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Hence the little warning sign on my OnStar report. They suspect I'm not resetting my OLM, but fugg 'em. Car only has 6800 miles on it. So when I change my oil, THEN I'll reset it.

I've used the OLM to schedule oil changes for all the vehicles so equipped and never had an issue with any of them. None. I believe...
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I can't remember the last time I changed my oil. Checked it yesterday... Full, pretty clean and 51% on the indicator. I think I changed it last fall...
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you talking regular dino oil vs synthetic? the system works with both types of oil.

the system doesnt know what you put in for oil,, the system does not do any tests on the oil,, it is just a calculated value based on rpm, speed, load, time, temperature

you could put drain oil back in your car, reset the OLM to 100% and the computer will start its calculation again, same as any other oil used
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:09 AM   #27
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Two years, two oil changes on the 5600 mile CTS. Had 78% left on the OLM when it was changed last time. (Mobil 1 and a Wix filter) It's driven 4 miles every third day to work, and has one trip to Kentucky on it.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:16 AM   #28
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the system doesnt know what you put in for oil,, the system does not do any tests on the oil,, it is just a calculated value based on rpm, speed, load, time, temperature

you could put drain oil back in your car, reset the OLM to 100% and the computer will start its calculation again, same as any other oil used
OLM is not a check to see if someone is being an idiot and putting drain back oil in it or simply resetting the OLM. So you don't believe in it. Ok, we get it. So what? Big deal. You can't convince me that it doesn't have merit. And it comes with the cars nowadays, why not use it?

You have to make some assumptions when running a computer program. The program is assuming once you reset the system, you put in the proper and approved grade/quality oil and keep it topped off. It figures it out based on those assumptions. If you don't live up to your end of the bargain, then nobody or no program can protect you from being a dumbass and doing dumbass things. I'm speaking rhetorically here.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:36 AM   #29
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On a related note, I just got an advisory from GM to bring my 2009 V6 Traverse in to "recalibrate the Engine Oil Life Monitor" Seems like they are having pre-mature timing chain wear and they need at least a band-aid fix for it so that you might make it past the warrantee period
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OnStar is "on my butt" about the Camaro OLM reading like in the 80s yet it's been a bit over a year since an oil change.



Hence the little warning sign on my OnStar report. They suspect I'm not resetting my OLM, but fugg 'em. Car only has 6800 miles on it. So when I change my oil, THEN I'll reset it.

I've used the OLM to schedule oil changes for all the vehicles so equipped and never had an issue with any of them. None. I believe...
doesnt the manual say to change it at least every year or when the OLM says to?

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the system doesnt know what you put in for oil,, the system does not do any tests on the oil,, it is just a calculated value based on rpm, speed, load, time, temperature

you could put drain oil back in your car, reset the OLM to 100% and the computer will start its calculation again, same as any other oil used
the system doesnt need to know whether you've put synthetic or dino oil in the car.

you could pour your stuff back in and reset it, but the OLM will pop up sooner due to the lack of ZDDP and other constituents in the oil. the deterioration factor will increase due to the oils protective wear properties already being "used up"

I've done this same "experiment" on a 2008 Silverado. drained the oil out, poured it back in with a new filter and reset the OLM and it wasnt but even 2k miles before the OLM was reading down to 40%
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:47 AM   #31
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Great information, thanks for posting. I am going to start checking my OLM.
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The key is not so much as miles on the oil it is the kind of miles you have on the oil.....
were the miles Highway?
were the miles City?
were the miles driving 90 mph?
were the miles driving 70 mph?
were the miles drag racing light to light?

you have to use common sense with this. also it is normal for cars to use oil, just because you have no leaks doesnt mean the car will remain at full leevel for 5000 miles. you might be suprized to know that your camaro is most likely going to use 1 quart of oil per 5000 miles depending on how you drive it. higher RPM's = more consumption of oil.

if you do your own oil changes you should get a good feel for what kind of mileage intervals you should be using. it is trial and error with each vehicle IMO. it all depends on how your driving that thing.

I used to race motocross and we changed the oil for each track day.... because the bike was held wide open for 20 minute sessions a few times. now if i were just leisurely riding the same bike it would be a waste to change that oil every time i took the bike out.
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doesnt the manual say to change it at least every year or when the OLM says to?



the system doesnt need to know whether you've put synthetic or dino oil in the car.

you could pour your stuff back in and reset it, but the OLM will pop up sooner due to the lack of ZDDP and other constituents in the oil. the deterioration factor will increase due to the oils protective wear properties already being "used up"

I've done this same "experiment" on a 2008 Silverado. drained the oil out, poured it back in with a new filter and reset the OLM and it wasnt but even 2k miles before the OLM was reading down to 40% :thumbsup
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this info is wrong,, the gm system does not have an oil quality sensor, it is just a calculated number based off of load, rpm, mph, temp,, it does not check the oil itself in any way. the only oil sensors gm has are oil level and oil pressure,, The system itself uses an algorithm that tracks engine revolutions and temperature and predicts oil life based on these parameters and driver use.



some european vehicles do have an oil quality sensor but non of the US vehicles do.
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this info is wrong,, the gm system does not have an oil quality sensor, it is just a calculated number based off of load, rpm, mph, temp,, it does not check the oil itself in any way. the only oil sensors gm has are oil level and oil pressure,, The system itself uses an algorithm that tracks engine revolutions and temperature and predicts oil life based on these parameters and driver use.



some european vehicles do have an oil quality sensor but non of the US vehicles do.

What I'm saying is that as the protective properties of the oil break down, higher temps and worse flow characteristics are just some of the results, the OLM sees this and adjusts your % based off of the algorithm and the parameters it can see.

I wont say its completely fool proof, but I wont just blindly state that "it just doesnt work" either
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