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Old 03-03-2009, 06:23 PM   #86
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So all in all, looks like I'm good. Except I should call and tell them to cancel the undercoat. Correct?
I would if I was you. I know a few years ago I read it in my warrenty book that aftermarket undercoating would void factory warrenty on rust through, I assume it is still that way. See all it take is one plugged up drain hole and you will have a problem...
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:29 PM   #87
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I would if I was you. I know a few years ago I read it in my warrenty book that aftermarket undercoating would void factory warrenty on rust through, I assume it is still that way. See all it take is one plugged up drain hole and you will have a problem...
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:30 PM   #88
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It's actually Monroney sticker.

Congrats on the order.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroney_sticker


Almer Stillwell "Mike" Monroney, the Oklahoma senator who sponsored the Automobile Information Disclosure Act of 1958.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:36 PM   #89
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Warranty book and owners manual recommend NO additional under coating be applied.

It will make your car stink for a long time too.

Just a dealer rip from 20 years ago.

Same for Paint Protection and Fabric Guard.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:40 PM   #90
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Warranty book and owners manual recommend NO additional under coating be applied.

It will make your car stink for a long time too.

Just a dealer rip from 20 years ago.

Same for Paint Protection and Fabric Guard.
I don't allow the dealer to put anything extra on my cars (even their dealer sticker), if they insist, I go elsewhere...
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:55 PM   #91
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It's actually Monroney sticker.

Congrats on the order.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroney_sticker


Almer Stillwell "Mike" Monroney, the Oklahoma senator who sponsored the Automobile Information Disclosure Act of 1958.
Cool, thanks for the story. I just heard from my salesman. Apparently he didn't know the whole story.

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Warranty book and owners manual recommend NO additional under coating be applied.

It will make your car stink for a long time too.

Just a dealer rip from 20 years ago.

Same for Paint Protection and Fabric Guard.
OK, cool. Thanx.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:01 PM   #92
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I have them hand Me the dealer ID they put on the back bumper and place it in the glove box for posterity and also hand me the sticker rather than putting it on the window. It goes with the car when I sell.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:01 PM   #93
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So, because of our good friend Monroney and the R6P code, the vehicle will be shipped to us showing the MSRP at time of pre-order? If so, does the dealer have to honor the MSRP that shows on the sticker?
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:11 PM   #94
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You betcha ...but there will be some who replace the actual sticker with a mock up.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:13 PM   #95
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I have them hand we the dealer ID they put on the back bumper and place it in the glove box for posterity and also hand me the sticker rather than putting it on the window. It goes with the car when I sell.
I told them to leave the dealer emblem off the car. I don't care what they do with that but the sticker is coming with me.

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So, because of our good friend Monroney and the R6P code, the vehicle will be shipped to us showing the MSRP at time of pre-order? If so, does the dealer have to honor the MSRP that shows on the sticker?
The first, as I understad it, is a YES.
The second I don't know. A dealer can usually jack up the price as far as they want. In this particular case, I don't know if GM will or even can enforce it. What irritates me is that GM has things like the R6P code and the dealer doesn't even know what the hell it is. I don't think GM should kiss our ass and provide us with the latest info but at least provide the dealer with all the info.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:17 PM   #96
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You betcha ...but there will be some who replace the actual sticker with a mock up.
So from what we've learned here today, that would be illegal.

Also, what owners manual recomends not undercoating?
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:44 PM   #98
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"undercoat only?" What? That's not the old "rust protection undercoat" scam is it?
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"undercoat only?" What? That's not the old "rust protection undercoat" scam is it?
Apparently. I can admit when I FAIL! lol

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Cool, cause I'll be asking my dealer flat out why they recomend it when GM is the opposit.
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:17 PM   #100
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...I just heard from my salesman. Apparently he didn't know the whole story...


Dude, you made a funny; or showed a sad reality.

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Old 03-03-2009, 08:43 PM   #101
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Oh, you are a prick... but I love it.
I was seriously wondering if I will have to shell out another $3K for clerical fees, but thanks for confiming that is only ~$300.

btw, I was not being a prick... just trying to figure out the numbers
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:45 PM   #102
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You betcha ...but there will be some who replace the actual sticker with a mock up.
Highly illegal, they can only add a additional sticker they cannot modify the factory sticker in any way....oh and they have to add that sticker to the car and disclose any additional costs before you start the paperwork or they cannot legally charge you for it.
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