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Old 04-10-2011, 11:52 AM   #171
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So let me see... Some of you guys are ok with not being able to install shorty's or long tube headers just for 15-20 more horse from the factory?
I completely understand what you are saying but what are we currently getting with a full bolt on right now with our LLT? Catback, intake, and long tube is only good for about 25-30 wheel hp top before a tune and before going FI.
I bet its probably possible to see that number and maybe even more with just a e85 tune if indeed camaro do come out with the new LFX engine for the 2012. Now I don't know if they will have the same bosch ECU like our current generation does but even if is the same I bet there will be way more tuning option for LFX than our LLT.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:54 AM   #172
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I completely understand what you are saying but what are we currently getting with a full bolt on right now with our LLT? Catback, intake, and long tube is only good for about 25-30 wheel hp top before a tune and before going FI.
I bet its probably possible to see that number and maybe even more with just a e85 tune if indeed camaro do come out with the new LFX engine for the 2012. Now I don't know if they will have the same bosch ECU like our current generation does but even if is the same I bet there will be way more tuning option for LFX than our LLT.
According to the specs before they took them down they have changed the brand of the ECU. I'm wondering if it can be used on the LLT.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:01 PM   #173
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According to the specs before they took them down they have changed the brand of the ECU. I'm wondering if it can be used on the LLT.
Maybe this is another reason why current tuners are not really messing with the LLT ecu, I know in the past HPtuners didn't even want to touch the bosch on the caddy and our camaro according to their forum.
Maybe the LFX is really coming for 2012 and is more than just a rumor. If I was a tuner I know I woudn't put any money onto the current bosch knowing that a new ecu is coming for 2012 and its probably easier to tune and over top of that its e85. Coming from Sti and cobb's e85 tuning, I know the new LFX is going to be a good player in the game, at least better than the current LLT.
Regardless, I wish I would have known about this
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:04 PM   #174
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Maybe this is another reason why current tuners are not really messing with the LLT ecu, I know in the past HPtuners didn't even want to touch the bosch on the caddy and our camaro according to their forum.
Maybe the LFX is really coming for 2012 and is more than just a rumor. If I was a tuner I know I woudn't put any money onto the current bosch knowing that a new ecu is coming for 2012 and its probably easier to tune and over top of that its e85. Coming from Sti and cobb's e85 tuning, I know the new LFX is going to be a good player in the game, at least better than the current LLT.
Regardless, I wish I would have known about this
Its most likely is why a lot of the tuners dropped. It make sense. I wonder why the Bosch one is so bad? I've never looked at an ECU's code so I have no idea.
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Holy cow! Those are some damned good numbers! My 4th gen is gonna have to keep its guard up!
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:08 PM   #176
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I wonder how much better in would do after porting that integrated manifold?
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:40 PM   #177
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Here's the 3.0 with the integrated exhaust port.


Slap a turbo on both sides and were in business!
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:18 AM   #178
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Can wait for some one to run e85 and a shot of nitrous, a 11 second pass was made with a guy runing 81 oct and a shot of Nos, dam
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:21 AM   #179
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Slap a turbo on both sides and were in business!


Also people are going to run straight pipes with high flow casts so ther will be an after market for exaust
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:05 AM   #180
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The released dyno numbers are for 87 octane. i'd expect +11hp and +13ftlb when running e85 (if still compatible) based on other dyno charts (334hp 291lbft). Only downside is filling up 40% sooner.
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You never want to tip your HP hand all at once. Glad to see GM is once again and as per usual going to make Ford play catch up in the HP wars.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:05 PM   #182
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Check out this video if you haven't already seen it:

http://www.ca.autoblog.com/2011/05/1...wer/#continued


Provides great visuals and explanation of how the LFX integrated the exhaust manifold into the cylinder head. I was planning on getting a 2012 V6, but am now second guessing because I can't throw some headers on it :( Anyone else share this disappointment? Although the video boasts improved air flow, I'm assuming it still won't match the air you can force out with headers??
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