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Old 05-26-2011, 08:55 PM   #18
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I wonder why there is an advisory not to lower the top in freezing temperatures. Maybe in all their testing they found a problem.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:22 PM   #19
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I wonder why there is an advisory not to lower the top in freezing temperatures. Maybe in all their testing they found a problem.
Hard to drive with hypothermia!

I believe there is a temp cut out on the system. Frozen fabric might not fold well though.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:59 PM   #20
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That's good news. Although the person inspecting after the water test has to be very thorough. My coupe must have been pulled for the hurricane test. It arrived at the dealer with a reverse light totally full of water lol. Bumper had to be pulled and light replaced on day 1. Wasn't a very happy camper since every GM car i have ever owned has had leaky lights. :(
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:36 PM   #21
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:47 PM   #22
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Old 05-27-2011, 12:29 AM   #23
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I thank my lucky stars that I have had no roof leaking issues or wear marks! Although, I must say, I laughed with the dude getting into the trunk because lord knows there isn't much to work with back there.
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Old 05-27-2011, 12:35 AM   #24
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I wonder why there is an advisory not to lower the top in freezing temperatures. Maybe in all their testing they found a problem.
There is probably an advisory because some people lack this thing called common sense.
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Old 05-27-2011, 12:44 AM   #25
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On these 80 test cars putting the top up and down five times a day is great and all, but they must have driven then in the Michigan winter. Meaning after putting the top up and down 5 times they left it up to drive in or else they would have noticed the wear marks

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Old 05-27-2011, 12:45 AM   #26
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NDIANAPOLIS – When the Chevrolet Camaro Convertible sets the pace for the 2011 Indianapolis 500 this Sunday, it will showcase a top built to last a lifetime, operate worry-free and maintain the appearance of its Coupe sibling. ...
Becky, thanks for posting. Awesome!!

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Hard to drive with hypothermia!

I believe there is a temp cut out on the system. Frozen fabric might not fold well though.
Yes, you could put the top down below 32 degrees, but do you really want to freeze??

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I wonder why there is an advisory not to lower the top in freezing temperatures. Maybe in all their testing they found a problem.
Water will expand when it freezes in the cloth - the hard, frozen ice that forms between the fibers, especially when folded, will push apart and destroy the fabric and integrity of the top more quickly than time, heat/cold, pressure, sunlight, etc. will by themselves. So I can see why GM/Chevy would engineer in a switch to have the top not be lowered when temps are near or below freezing. Thoughtful engineering to help our verts last longer, if you ask me.

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I sure hope you've taken your car to your dealer. As stated in the video, any water is unacceptable to GM and should be unaccetable for you too.


What aren't you believing? The rigorous testing is no joke in fact the video really understates it in my opinion.

And Oshawa works hard to build a high quality product and puts every car through the UWTB as shown in the video.

That being said, a convertible is a pretty complex thing to seal and it does give more of an opportunity to leak. If yours does, take it to the dealer and get it fixed. You shouldn't have to cover your car in the rain.
Number 3, thanks for posting here. What you say makes perfect sense - I teach for a software engineering firm, and even there we don't anticipate all the things that might happen when products are used in the real world. Keeping water out of a convertible in the first model year must be a challenge indeed! I appreciate your giving us further insight into the process.

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On these 80 test cars porting the top up and down five times a day is great and all, but they must have driven then in the Michigan winter. Meaning after putting the top up and down 5 times they left it up to drive in or else they would have noticed the wear marks
Interesting! That could explain it. Maybe the problem happened because of an adjustment or change that was made after the test car run - or because of a problem that was found on the test car run and "resolved"!! Kill one problem and more come to the funeral.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:04 AM   #28
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:43 AM   #29
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Very impressive testing and video production, I like the coolvibe feel as opposed to the typical tie and suit dry feel that most OEM inhouse videos give. But we need to lose the stripes on bumper look,kills the rest of the great shape....IMHO
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Old 05-27-2011, 01:16 PM   #30
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Hey PQ they got a Job for you in Oshawa.

It requires getting in and out of the trunk of a Camaro I think you have done that before lol
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Old 05-27-2011, 02:15 PM   #31
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It requires getting in and out of the trunk of a Camaro I think you have done that before lol
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Old 05-27-2011, 03:08 PM   #32
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Old 05-27-2011, 03:42 PM   #33
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The engineers need to leave the top down a couple hours or so and then put it back up and look above the door glass on both sides and see the two poke marks, and try to figure out what is pressing up agaist the top while it is in the down position. Mine are pretty bad right after I put the top up, but seem to get a little better after a while, but are permanantly there. I will be taking it in to the dealer next week to get it documented.

Glad to see you are going to get the issue looked at. Let me know if you need my help!

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Old 05-27-2011, 05:20 PM   #34
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Did they forget to do the water test on all those who have reported leaks so far?
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